Healing open wounds

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When i first joined the site i was given this advice and im so glad i followed it because i was spending most of my time in ca/sa section and really missing out on all the site has to offer

Spend allot of time in the health and diseases section and the set up and filtration section. Read the stickies and threads even if they dont pertain to something your dealing with now. Even though this is the BEST section because we get to discuss polys but theres way more to learn about the hobby and no offense to anyone but your not gonna learn it here.
 
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I just skimmed over the thread but was dealing with a tantrum from my 4 yr old going on 17 daughter. So if i repeating something that was lready stated forgive me.

Are you on city/state water or well water ? If well then prime is not need.

I noticed that you said "they" didnt test for nitrate in one of your posts. Dont trust the lfs to test your water. Im not saying your lfs would do this but if your water is fouled by nitrates fish eventually get sick, you then by meds, fish gets better but sick again, you buy more meds or fish dies you buy more fish. If you havent already get an api liquid master test kit. Also i could be wrong but did you say nitrates were at 0 ?

How do you clean your filter ? Do you wash the media and foam in tap water ? If so and your on city/state filtered water that uses chlorine or chlaramine it will kill off the benificial bacteria and essentially recycle your filters.

If all of this was covered then ignore me and call me an idiot lol

That wound definitly looks worse though
 
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When i first joined the site i was given this advice and im so glad i followed it because i was spending most of my time in ca/sa section and really missing out on all the site has to offer

Spend allot of time in the health and diseases section and the set up and filtration section. Read the stickies and threads even if they dont pertain to something your dealing with now. Even though this is the BEST section because we get to discuss polys but theres way more to learn about the hobby and no offense to anyone but your not gonna learn it here.

Thank you J jaws7777 . Will definitely start reading that section and DMD123 DMD123 's med site. Hopefully classes will permit.;) Thank you guys for being awesome and supportive!
 
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And i believe your not supposed to feed during medication, i just read that somewhere.
Yea...would slow feeding down to every 2 days. The only problem will be if that opening goes deep in toward the gut then feeding will need to be held. Hope it heals up. Will keep an eye out. An opening like that past 30 days is what bothers me as mentioned already.

Post ur nitrates cause I don't believe I've seen it posted as of yet.
 
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I just skimmed over the thread but was dealing with a tantrum from my 4 yr old going on 17 daughter. So if i repeating something that was lready stated forgive me.

Are you on city/state water or well water ? If well then prime is not need.

I noticed that you said "they" didnt test for nitrate in one of your posts. Dont trust the lfs to test your water. Im not saying your lfs would do this but if your water is fouled by nitrates fish eventually get sick, you then by meds, fish gets better but sick again, you buy more meds or fish dies you buy more fish. If you havent already get an api liquid master test kit. Also i could be wrong but did you say nitrates were at 0 ?

How do you clean your filter ? Do you wash the media and foam in tap water ? If so and your on city/state filtered water that uses chlorine or chlaramine it will kill off the benificial bacteria and essentially recycle your filters.

If all of this was covered then ignore me and call me an idiot lol

That wound definitly looks worse though
Really appreciate the help. Haven't heard of 4 going on 17, but I have heard of 13 going on 30 lol.

Actually my LFS might do that. I used to work there and sometimes readings don't get done correctly. Typically my ammonia, nitrites, and nitrates are at 0pm. Definitely is a possibility for the nitrates to be higher, but I don't feed except every other day and do not do large amounts....so not anticipating a large amount, still would be a good idea to check. with the 50% water change 1x a week my ammonia and NO2- have been 0 ppm 9/10 times I check. But you are absolutely right. Could be anything and water parameters always need to be checked first. Will put an updated reading tomorrow.

Currently just have the API pH and Phosphate tests(liquid/test tubes, not strips). Tested those yesterday. Need to buy API master test kit soon.
pH 7.6 (Use City water)
Phosphate: 8 ppm. Ridiculous I know.
When I do the water changes I add whatever the Tetra company water dechlorinator is for the chlorines and chloramines. Will upgrade to Novaqua or Prime once I use all my old stuff.

The cleaning part was not covered. It is a HOB. I scrub it out 1x a month and change the cartridges...still buying replacement ones haha. I know I am not supposed to clean it using regular tap water, but I do that once a month when I scrub the filter out. sometimes I rinse the cartridges out 1x a month(if even) with the tap water and put them back in. That's if I do not replace them though. Probably a bad idea? I know I should use the tank water to clean it out, but I dont know how to do that. What do you recommend?
 
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I forget does the cartridge hold media? If so then just slightly rinse gunk out with tank water. Bacteria will die of rinsed with tank water.

Nitrates shouldn't be zero. Means u don't have any BB in ur media. All the water changes is what's keeping everything at zero. Does ur HOB have media for BB?
 
What kind of hob ? Since no nitrates like kno4te said... all those wc's are whats saving your fish. Definitely dont wash out your media in tap water... mo need to do a total scrib on any filter... really cant tell you how to better clean it until we know what it is.... i have a feeling there isnt any bio media.

No need to thank us...we all went through this at some point... just wanna save that ornate :)
 
I forget does the cartridge hold media? If so then just slightly rinse gunk out with tank water. Bacteria will die of rinsed with tank water.

Nitrates shouldn't be zero. Means u don't have any BB in ur media. All the water changes is what's keeping everything at zero. Does ur HOB have media for BB?

I'm not sure if there's any BB in media. Literally all the filter has in it are the carbon cartridges and 2 bio wheels. it's a Penguin Biowheel 350......but I am not sure if the biowheels really have beneficial bacteria or count as biomechanical filtration.Not 100% sure though...I do not rinse out the Biowheels, just the carbon cartridges.
 
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What kind of hob ? Since no nitrates like kno4te said... all those wc's are whats saving your fish. Definitely dont wash out your media in tap water... mo need to do a total scrib on any filter... really cant tell you how to better clean it until we know what it is.... i have a feeling there isnt any bio media.

No need to thank us...we all went through this at some point... just wanna save that ornate :)

okay, I won't wash it out in tab water any more or do a deep scrub. Yeah I'm not sure if there's bio media. I mean there are 2 bio wheels in it, and 2 carbon cartridges. It's a Penguin 350. But I am not sure if the biowheels really have beneficial bacteria on them or if they really count as bio media.

P.S. thank you! I want to save the ornate too! yay!
 
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