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okay my tig ate and after he started to swimm upside down and bug out i thought he was gonna die but he still is upside down on the bottom of the tank upside down. he is the only fish in the tank. any one ?
 
We need more info. Parameters?, water change schedule?, is there a lot of flow?, how long have you had him?, what's your feeding schedule like?, etc.
 
According to Taksan, someone on this site who has successfully raised tigrinus:

taksan;4783167; said:
They are not difficult to keep provided you follow the basic principles.

They are difficult to keep well because most people can't be bothered doing the required work and just put them in with other fish in a large tank and are surprised when they only last a year or less.


High flow rate (massive) Hi oxygen and lower range temp's 75-78 degrees(25c)

They a a fish that dwells in the rapids and need massive water movement.

They require particularly clean water , I mean crystal clean so think 2 x 50% WC's a week , every week ...forever.

They require a large tank (but not as large as a TSN) something like a 6' x 3' x 2.5' would keep a tig for life.

They require careful selection of tankmates they are not agressive and their beautiful trailers can be damaged. I keep them alone.

They require feeding of preferably mixed foods but only every 2nd day.

I use UV's, Chemicals, large 50% WC's every 2nd day and a minimum of 300gal per fish with 10x turnover and I have not lost one yet and I've grown up 8 so far. All to over 20" from tiny little babies including one that is now 28" which i think is the biggest tig ever grown out in a tank and has just got his own 570g tank.

My regime for keeping my tigs is pretty simple, do the very best possible. Zero tolerence, Zero comprimise.

I keep them alone I've never had success with tigs with tank mates. Whenever they have had tankmates they either try and kill them (which they are hopeless at and usually end up hurting themselves) or go off their food. I keep them alone, 1 per tank.

I have a very specific and set regime for keeping my tig's I don't expect many people to be able to do it this way but it will offer some ideas for those having issues.

When they are tiny I feed them naturally on live food (neons, blackworms).
Gradually I introduce earthworms and rehydrated freeze dried blackworms.
Once they are eating the freeze dried I insert crushed massivore tablets inside the clumps of blackworms and introduce silversides and small frozen fish.
Once above 12" I move to a diet of the freeze dried blackworm/massivore cocktail and small dead fish.

I keep my feeding regime for adult fish as follows ..
Day 1 feed blackworm/massivore
Day 2 50% WC no food
Day 3 feed 4 small dead fish thawed in seachem nourish solution
Day 4 50% WC no food
Day 5 Large Earthworms
Day 6 50% WC no food

Then your back on day 1 again .....

I believe Chemical filtration is important so ......

I also have a totally seperate filter (Eheim 2078 Pro3E) filled with
6 x pouches BiochemZorb
4 x pouches Nitrazorb
2 x 500ml bags Seachem Purigen
This filter outputs through a 72w UV sterilizer.
All the chemicals are changed for new (not regenerated) on the first day of each month.

Normal Filtration in the 300g's consists of
1 x Eheim 2080 Pro 3 XL
1 x Eheim 2180 Pro 3 XL thermofilter

I also use 2 x Eheim 2252 internal sponge filters with diffusers for additional circulation and aeration instead of a airstone.

The new tank is 570g up from 300 and has a 2nd 2180 and 2080 in addition to the 3 other filters and the internals.

I will gradually replace the other tanks with bigger 500+ g tanks as the fish in each reaches the size when its streamers can almost touch the rear of the tank if its on a 90 degree angle I'd never let the fish feel restricted in any way when turning.

PH is kept at 7 always

GH 4 KH 4 and I TEST (yes actually do the tests) all parameters weekly.

I've never missed a water change, a chemical change or a filter maintenance ....ever.

I personally consider Tigrinus to be the greatest fish in the world ......they are my passion (my wife would say obsession).
It might be weird to have 2800 gallons and only 8 fish but its the way I do things.
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yes yes water is perfect. just did a water change today i feed him every other day and every day i do a 25 perfect water change. no there is not much current. he is in a 20 gallon, that he has been in for about 2 or 3 mnths now. he was in a 55g but i wanted to treat him for parasites so had him in this 20 or 30 gallon what ever it is. and this week he was going to be moved to a 40 breeder or a 75g.......
 
Sorry to hear this. Upside down doesn't sound good at all... :(

The one I had lost was upside down on the bottom for about 1.5 hours before it gave up :(

How big is it?
What are you feeding it?
Heavy breathing?
How long have you had it?
Any redness on the belly/fin area?
 
he is 7 inch i feed him earthworms cut up and shrimp that i literally smash with my fist and cut it up befor i feed.... today he ate a big peace of shrimp....idk....i wanna fn cry....was a little redness i cut the lights out and he is slowing down with breathing and isnt red at all.....i think i may fource him to throw up...idk just a thought
 
Sorry to hear that. I have read a lot of info suggesting that at the size, they will have problems digesting shrimps, which would cause a problem.

I think most people suggest no feeding them shrimp until 12"+.

But that might now be the cause of the problem you are having.

I lost a 8-9" one a while ago, I felt so helpless when it happened :(

So I understand how you are feeling. :(

Sorry again...

Hang in there. I hope this won't keep you from keeping these beauties... :)
 
I just lost my 10"er only after having it or 24 hours.

I did not know that you shouldn't feed shrimp.. I knew about worms.. add that to another reason mine probably died. He fed him Shrimp as well.

Not to be rude, couldn't you have just treated the entire tank he was in for parasites? A 20 gallon for a fish that big will wig out pretty quick.

Things don't seem promising.. sorry man. I know how it feels.
 
i could of treated the whole tank but then im using more meds per gallon...metronidazole aint cheep...lol he didnt even get to grow out of it =(
 
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