well im trying it with vonts and escons, they are still small right now at 2-3in and get along fine but as we all know that can drastically change as they mature so i will keep you guys posted on whether they continue to tolerate each other as they get bigger, and as for the species discussion, ALL Carpinte are the same SPECIES they are only different variants from different collection points, to me personally i see big differences between most of the variants, to me they have distinctly different colors and pearl markings though i think escons and lahillas have a similar look and possibly vonts but i have yet to see a nice big specimen so cant comment on that one yet, like said before there is a great thread on here somewhere with photo comparisons of all the variants (except for vonts) but yeah i dont think vonts are so much new (as in just discovered) but it may just be that they havent been widely distributed in the hobby until now (though cant imagine why they havent as they are gorgeous fish)Cichlidfever;3855732; said:The animal guy is that a male or female Escondido that you have? Vontehillo does look niceI wonder can you have all three variants share the same tank? Has anybody tried that? Looking at the Vontehillo, I am thinking I would like to try that? Also do all variants of the males get the hump on their heads?
VRWC;3856119; said:I stand corrected (if those discussing it in your link are correct). I had been informed that the escondido were about 20+ miles up the Panuco, different from Chariel & Lahillas which were a closer locale.
To me, the escondido is the only carpintis that looks different from every other variant. If it were the exact same fish as chariel & lahillas, why would it consistently be greener, with different facial markings than all the others?
cchhcc;3856626; said:.....because an isolated population is being bred and marketed by one individual.
Sometimes I think the fish community would split zebras into about 785 different species....based, of course, solely on differences in their striping patterns.


very truecchhcc;3856626; said:.....because an isolated population is being bred and marketed by one individual.
Sometimes I think the fish community would split zebras into about 785 different species....based, of course, solely on differences in their striping patterns.
I know thats what it seems like, Plus it's cool to come across these fish because not to many others offer quality fish from remote places, The Vontehillo IMHO is the best looking one because of the pearling and color.darth pike;3855415; said:Ira might have better info, but it seems Don Conkel is collecting in both new Mexican locations as well as locations that haven't been collected in decades ... both good news for the hobby.