Hey Cichla experts...what is this??

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haynchinook334;4458311;4458311 said:
The mass majority of Pbass that comes from Guyana, Suriname, Guiana are Ocell's. You have a link to the sight you've been looking at?

And I was reading someplace ( I'll find the link), But, the "experts" think that a cross between Orino's and tems would produce the rare pbass Fogo. I don't know.....
http://tucunare.net/foro/index.php
 
hmmm....looks like i made boo-boo. when i first searched for Macagua dam in google it showed it as Guyana. but after doing a double check it's actually the city of Guayana, which is Venezuela. and it looks like Macagua dam/resorvoir connects to the Orinoco via Rio Caroni and Rio Claro. does that change anybody's opinion???

btw, this is the website that had the typo of Guyana vs Guayana :irked:
http://www.exploguide.com/site/macagua-i-ii-iii-dam-ciudad-guyana
 
Alright well this is sparking my attention again, so i took a second look at the hybrid theory, as well as the rest. And well it seems possible but not so practical, well at least in my view. Here is why i am rethinking the possibility of hybridization in the wild, the maps presented in the attachments will show you 3 known species that most possibly coexist in that river system. So its very possible, but i don't have any other proof yet to prove it. But at least we now know there is that chance. How great of a chance? Well for that you will need a geneticist run some DNA tests, compare and find out if the Cichla carries the alleles and genes of the Cichla it appears to resemble and if it proves to be a hybrid find out what kind of hybrid (i.e single cross, double cross, triple cross, population cross etc..) and then you can find the population of the location to get an estimate of the % chance of this occurring. But simply, it will take more than a glance to know for sure, finding a true hybrid in the wild is very rare but possible.

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haynchinook334;4458032; said:
My eyes are open. Just because you say that the fish IS A Tem doesn't make them a tem. I tend to believe the people that actually caught the fish, then I believe you. Look at J's second set of pictures, Are they tems to because they have red on the lower part of the caudal fin?

AND, the fish J has post, where caught in Guyana?
Well fishermen are far from experts so I don't see why you would believe them. I have seen fishermen totally misname fish many times before, even on the internet.

Either way, I am just beating a dead horse because you are gullible to things people post on the internet and will believe that a zebra is pink if someone were to post it.
 
I<3fish;4459027; said:
Well fishermen are far from experts so I don't see why you would believe them. I have seen fishermen totally misname fish many times before, even on the internet.

Either way, I am just beating a dead horse because you are gullible to things people post on the internet and will believe that a zebra is pink if someone were to post it.

All your comments are negative.:banhim:
 
scriving;4459037; said:
All your comments are negative.:banhim:
They are not negative, they are refuting my point. Which is don't believe everything you see on the internet.
 
To through some gas on the fire.I went down to fish in Venezuela, on lake Guri and had a awesome time.We caught a lot of pbass.I caught a few of the mix fish but there was a lot caught in our group.I had kept a few pbass over the years.I knew what a tem. looked like and reg. pbass look like.I was sort of confused and I asked the guide that spoke English and was told that before the dam was built there were many ranches that had privet lakes to fish.They had tems.mono and butterfly in them.These ranches were flooded when the dam was filling up.It's a huge lake,22 miles wide and 80 miles long.
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so could it mean that this is happening because of the dam? if so very interesting.
 
I<3fish;4459027; said:
Well fishermen are far from experts so I don't see why you would believe them. I have seen fishermen totally misname fish many times before, even on the internet.

Either way, I am just beating a dead horse because you are gullible to things people post on the internet and will believe that a zebra is pink if someone were to post it.
Funny thing is, I have yet made a comment that it was for sure a orino...DID I? I was stating that the site I have given, stated that they where orino's. I was pointing out that same markings as the smaller ones that Jcar posted in the first set of picture COULD end up looking like the fish I posted. So believe what you want pimp. :grinno: And I will still believe them/fish sites, WELL before you.

And...Zebra's are pink, once you tag um' with a Berrett 50.Cal. Anything else guy?
 
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