high nitrite and nitrate..

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Yes plants will help but you must get to the root of the problem, so you took all your bigger fish traded them for smaller ones? I wonder if the rapid change in bio load caused die off of bb ? Just do some w/c 50% daily keep checking everything what's the ph? Keep us posted


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Ok. If OP is getting more than 10-20 ppm nitrate out of his tap, he needs to call the EPA. He said he's got 60 ppm in his tank


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60 ppm nitrates is nothing, in all honesty. rays breed and flourish in amounts exceeding 200ppm in tanks.
it's the nitrites he should be worrying about. 5ppm is no joke to a fish's health. the only thing worse would be if it were ammonia.
it sounds like your tank is constantly recycling itself and can't settle its bacteria colony to support your stock, which is already too heavy for the tank. i'm surprised you can get away with water changes every 4-5 days, it should be more often with that load and those numbers.

do you clean the filters with each water change?
when you clean your filters, do you rinse them in tap water or tank water? tap water will kill off bacteria colonies in your filter media so don't do that.
plants at this point wouldn't really help. can't put a bandaid on a decapitation and call it good to go.

you're right, prime detoxifies nitrites and ammonia, it doesn't magically get rid of them, they are still in the water column till you suck them out with water changes.

however, i personally don't see why you'd need to be using nutrafin cycle as well with every water change. it is a waste of money and is really accomplishing nothing. after 3 years especially, there should be no need to be adding it in all the time. your tank should be cycled.

does your tank have any substrate or is it barebottom? substrate will give bacteria more area to colonize than on the surface of the glass, and next to none in the water column.

remember, for a ray alone, your water turnover rate should be 4-10 times the amount of your tank. in your case, 500-1250 gph turnover on a 125.
that's not including all of your extra stock.
 
60 ppm nitrates is nothing, in all honesty. rays breed and flourish in amounts exceeding 200ppm in tanks.
it's the nitrites he should be worrying about. 5ppm is no joke to a fish's health. the only thing worse would be if it were ammonia.
it sounds like your tank is constantly recycling itself and can't settle its bacteria colony to support your stock, which is already too heavy for the tank. i'm surprised you can get away with water changes every 4-5 days, it should be more often with that load and those numbers.

do you clean the filters with each water change?
when you clean your filters, do you rinse them in tap water or tank water? tap water will kill off bacteria colonies in your filter media so don't do that.
plants at this point wouldn't really help. can't put a bandaid on a decapitation and call it good to go.

you're right, prime detoxifies nitrites and ammonia, it doesn't magically get rid of them, they are still in the water column till you suck them out with water changes.

however, i personally don't see why you'd need to be using nutrafin cycle as well with every water change. it is a waste of money and is really accomplishing nothing. after 3 years especially, there should be no need to be adding it in all the time. your tank should be cycled.

does your tank have any substrate or is it barebottom? substrate will give bacteria more area to colonize than on the surface of the glass, and next to none in the water column.

remember, for a ray alone, your water turnover rate should be 4-10 times the amount of your tank. in your case, 500-1250 gph turnover on a 125.
that's not including all of your extra stock.

Thanks , I clean my filter maybe once every two weeks , I clean it with the water in the canister , I have a bare bottom , I have a fx 5 and a ehiem pro 3 2075


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60 ppm nitrates is nothing, in all honesty. rays breed and flourish in amounts exceeding 200ppm in tanks.
it's the nitrites he should be worrying about. 5ppm is no joke to a fish's health. the only thing worse would be if it were ammonia.
it sounds like your tank is constantly recycling itself and can't settle its bacteria colony to support your stock, which is already too heavy for the tank. i'm surprised you can get away with water changes every 4-5 days, it should be more often with that load and those numbers.

do you clean the filters with each water change?
when you clean your filters, do you rinse them in tap water or tank water? tap water will kill off bacteria colonies in your filter media so don't do that.
plants at this point wouldn't really help. can't put a bandaid on a decapitation and call it good to go.

you're right, prime detoxifies nitrites and ammonia, it doesn't magically get rid of them, they are still in the water column till you suck them out with water changes.

however, i personally don't see why you'd need to be using nutrafin cycle as well with every water change. it is a waste of money and is really accomplishing nothing. after 3 years especially, there should be no need to be adding it in all the time. your tank should be cycled.

does your tank have any substrate or is it barebottom? substrate will give bacteria more area to colonize than on the surface of the glass, and next to none in the water column.

remember, for a ray alone, your water turnover rate should be 4-10 times the amount of your tank. in your case, 500-1250 gph turnover on a 125.
that's not including all of your extra stock.

These few days the nirite been getting low , for some reason , but nirate almost still the same


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