how can we make asian arowanas legal?
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novo;766818; said:now i know its is lucky to be in malaysiacoz i thk 90% of the lfs here sell aro..n i can even go bukit merah lake snatch aro..but quite dangerous...many boat patrol there....
A lot of the hobbyist in the states have been yearning to own Asian Aros. By rubbing it in their faces that you can easily own one won't earn you any brownie points here. You can't "snatch" aros regardless of where ever you are even in Bukit Merah. It makes no sense for them to uproot to Asia just because they want to own a Asian Aro either.
This thread is meant for the boys in the states to contribute in a positive way the means for them to legalize this particular fish. Oh, by the way, by speaking in Malay, doesn't cut it here either.
me_wee_todded;766848; said:
The only aro you're likely to catch is the one swimming in his aquarium.
man ..usa suck about rule ..itll be good if they let asian arowana.or red aro legal in vietnam i use to own one of da gold one here usa i only have some flower horn..i try to get one asian aro dont really kare wa rule they got in usa
yes ive been seeing RTG around MA and NYC recently really really not shy about showing it off in stores lolz
icthyophile;702212; said:
How does the ESA govern the trade in species not native to the U.S.? My understanding was the U.S. government said that to be legal for importation, the fish had to be artifically produced for at least ten generations, which the fish farms in Asia supposedly have already done. I understand they also microchip the fish so it can be proven to have come from their farm. I know someone who has applied for a permit and has been given the royal runaround by the Feds, but no real reason for denial of permit. He had hoped to become an importer/distibuter for the speices as obviously there is a demand, but they never could or would cite a specific law against artifically propagated fish.
Sundew;837681; said:
The USFWS takes a more strict stance on trade in endangered species compared to the rest of the world. As a long standing member of CITES, the US has the right to have it's own more stringent laws. That said, they also understand that for foreign species, the ESA has little benefit to the conservation of the species. The power of the ESA is in habitat conservation, and funding of programs to help conserve endangered species. 90% of the ESA has no benefit to foreign species. This is why in 2003, the restraints were loosened on enhancement of survival permits for limited take. They realize that it's ultimately up to the native range countries to help conserve the species, and that by prohibiting legal trade, they may be helping in the illegal trade.
The USFWS has stated in the past that if there is some benefit to the species as a result of trade, they will issue permits. This is why your friend didn't get a permit. You have to show proof that by importing the animal, there is some benefit to the species as a whole. Once a program is developed to conserve the fish in the wild, and money from trade is donated to that program, we may have a chance. This is still a long way off. Please understand that the USFWS is actually interested in allowing the trade of captive bred Formosus. There just has to be a benefit to the species before it's allowed.
Anyone interested in helping, please visit: http://www.savethearowana.com
Phil
there has probably been 5k to 10k post about the attempt to legalize asian arowanas in the united states. no matter what we do or how we do it, it aint happening. we have a better chance in legalizing drugs then asian arowanas.
it wont happen, we can keep trying but my doubts are there for many reasons. its already set and the government doesn't have to worry about it. why would they release the ban even for specific reasons and put more work on the to keep the reason WITHIN REASON. its more work on them to legalize it. NO WORK if they leave it as is. which is why it wont ever happen.
it wont happen, we can keep trying but my doubts are there for many reasons. its already set and the government doesn't have to worry about it. why would they release the ban even for specific reasons and put more work on the to keep the reason WITHIN REASON. its more work on them to legalize it. NO WORK if they leave it as is. which is why it wont ever happen.
ethnics;838600; said:
You might be surprised. I know one thing for sure, it won't happen if people don't try. Having a positive attitude toward it is a start.
