how can we make asian arowanas legal?
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people have had positive attitues towards it for 20 years now. and for 20 years we have all dreamed of it happening. whats the purpose for releasing the ban other then us getting to keep them in our aquariums? we dont have them in any of our streams or rivers or lakes. so its almost pointless for the govt. to release then ban for the united states. they get no benifit from it, jus more headach for having to make sure every aro in home aquaria is held legally with a permit.
trust me, i want to own one as much as the rest of you. but think about it logically. its out of our hands. u would not be the first guy in the united states to make the attempt to free up the ban. they shoot down 100's of attempts daily
trust me, i want to own one as much as the rest of you. but think about it logically. its out of our hands. u would not be the first guy in the united states to make the attempt to free up the ban. they shoot down 100's of attempts daily
ethnics;838691; said:
how about to breed them and increase thier numbers and the chance that they will survive ??? MAYBE RETURN ONE OR TWO TO THE WILD !!
The benefit would be that if fees obtained from permits were distributed to conservation, it could have a dramatic impact on conservation efforts.
If there is a fishkeeping politician, vote for him, never how bad he is- That way he may effect some change at the expense of running down the country.
breed asian aros then ship them back to asia to release them to the wild? breeders in asia wont even release them to the wild and there a walk down the street from most asian aro waters.
im not shooting down anyones efforts. im jus throwing out thoughts that we all should think of.
if all u think about is what good we have to offer, we wont kno what to expect when the govt. jus says NO. cuz more then likely thats all there gonna say.
fee's collected for permits will only put asian aros at the expense there aleady at. most people are willing to do it, but others will do as they have for the past 20 years. no permit needed, jus fork out the cash and its there's. no govt no nothing.
and fee's collected by permits wont go to the govt, and even if it did, in there eyes it aint helping re-populate the asian aros, were jus takin more from whats already out there and tryin to make profit off of it. its an endagered specie, and money is not what there concerned about as far as the fish goes.
im not shooting down anyones efforts. im jus throwing out thoughts that we all should think of.
if all u think about is what good we have to offer, we wont kno what to expect when the govt. jus says NO. cuz more then likely thats all there gonna say.
fee's collected for permits will only put asian aros at the expense there aleady at. most people are willing to do it, but others will do as they have for the past 20 years. no permit needed, jus fork out the cash and its there's. no govt no nothing.
and fee's collected by permits wont go to the govt, and even if it did, in there eyes it aint helping re-populate the asian aros, were jus takin more from whats already out there and tryin to make profit off of it. its an endagered specie, and money is not what there concerned about as far as the fish goes.
There are hurdles that can't be met easily in the possibility of returning CB aros to the wild.
-there are no local (to the aro's distribution) agencies willing to take the responsibility of collecting, cataloging, and releasing the aros to the wild.
-line-bred aros are unsuitable for repopulating wildstocks. The released aros would all have to be pure strains.
Licensing is also a waste of time. With no agency to collect the money and use it on behalf of wild stocks, the monies collected would sit in gov't coffers and most likely used in other (read: non-fish) endeavors.
-there are no local (to the aro's distribution) agencies willing to take the responsibility of collecting, cataloging, and releasing the aros to the wild.
-line-bred aros are unsuitable for repopulating wildstocks. The released aros would all have to be pure strains.
Licensing is also a waste of time. With no agency to collect the money and use it on behalf of wild stocks, the monies collected would sit in gov't coffers and most likely used in other (read: non-fish) endeavors.
it all come down to money........ thats why breeders in asia arent releasing them back into the wild because they are losing money
ethnics;838738; said:
Please understand that conservation does not mean releasing CB fish to the wild! That is the last resort, and not what's being done. There are sustainable numbers in the wild right now. The conservation efforts being carried out right now have nothing to do with CB releases. Forget about CB releases. That's not what I'm talking about regarding conservation.
Oddball;838750; said:
Funds would go from the permit applicant to a 3rd party who would distribute the funds to Conservation International initially, and hopefully the attention would cause either another conservation group, or the governments themselves to start programs so they can receive the funds also. There is currently one other body in South East Asia that is interested in a conservation program that this could potentially kick start.
That's the beauty of what I'm working on. One of the main hurdles is the workload of the USFWS. If the money never enters their hands, then there is no more workload than there is currently. It means that an applicant would apply for a permit from the 3rd party org, that org approves the permit once the funds are received, and approves the permit at the usfws level. Once approved, it's the same as any other EOS permit. Same for the fish once they're here. If you're caught with one without a permit, you're fined.
Hope this clears up the intent...
so ur intent is to only distribute captive bred aros so it doesn't affect the wild count. hmm... good luck.
