No. Do you ever watch those commercials for new drugs? Doesn't it ever trip you out how many have a possible side effect of thoughts of suicide?? How am I supposed to figure out if the monkey killed itself due to the drug, or just didn't appreciate being caged?
How Do You Guys Feel About Animal Experimentation
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Rock, I love you bro,........
but just stop, cut your losses. we're gonna rip you a new one if you keep going
but just stop, cut your losses. we're gonna rip you a new one if you keep going
Well, keep in mind, we are talking about inmates, nothing to lose. Now you think you'll force them to be productive? Good luck.
Sure some stuff doesn't need feedback, but that's probably when you get problems, assuming things are cut and dry.
Sure some stuff doesn't need feedback, but that's probably when you get problems, assuming things are cut and dry.
Rock, does the primate need to tell you if the medication slowed down Or cured EBOLA or can I just look for signs of it and test the blood?
I view trial and error as testing anyways. I mean, isn't that what they're doing?coming up with a product....and then testing it over and over until they get it right.
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I view trial and error as testing anyways. I mean, isn't that what they're doing?coming up with a product....and then testing it over and over until they get it right.
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I don't think it'll be a problem forcing experiments on them
if catching, restraining and jailing them wasn't possible then they'd be walking free
i'm sure they'd get sedated and then strapped to a bed or experimented on in an induced coma
for feedback, well, for example, if they wanted to test a new eye shadow out on an inmate, after application if the eyeballs fell out that's all the feedback they need. they wouldn't need the inmate to lie about how it brings out the blue in their eyes and highlights their face over all
if catching, restraining and jailing them wasn't possible then they'd be walking free
i'm sure they'd get sedated and then strapped to a bed or experimented on in an induced coma
for feedback, well, for example, if they wanted to test a new eye shadow out on an inmate, after application if the eyeballs fell out that's all the feedback they need. they wouldn't need the inmate to lie about how it brings out the blue in their eyes and highlights their face over all
at that point though the product can go to the general public.
but again, there are tons of feedback they can get that doesn't have to be verbal
but again, there are tons of feedback they can get that doesn't have to be verbal
Hello; We seem to have drifted away from the "moral" / "ethical " aspect of the thread. May we accept that effective testing protocols can be had using either non-human animals or human animal subjects? More to the point that either can yield fairly similar results if done properly.
There are several particular individual humans that I personally would not mind to see in a test lab. Not so much people in general. A problem with such an approach is that I myself may be on someone else's list.
There are also acceptable categories of crimes committed that perhaps deserve he worst punishment possible. A down side has already been mentioned. That being the possible innocence of someone convicted of such a crime. I believe the state of Virginia executed a man who was later proven to have been innocent of the particular crime. Several people have been released from death row after evidence like DNA has cleared them. I just do not see a way around that.
To live in a style that most of us have embraced as "normal" involves cruelty to animals. To have many of the useful and common day to day products around, we have already subjected animals to horrible conditions. The same can besaid about food production practices and keeping fish in aquariums.
Were I about to go blind (fill in your most feared disease), it likely would not matter how many or under what conditions lab animals had to suffer. I can work up sympathy for their plight but I really, really do not want to be blind. I can hope that the least harmful effective techniques will be used and the fewest number of test subjects used.
There are several particular individual humans that I personally would not mind to see in a test lab. Not so much people in general. A problem with such an approach is that I myself may be on someone else's list.
There are also acceptable categories of crimes committed that perhaps deserve he worst punishment possible. A down side has already been mentioned. That being the possible innocence of someone convicted of such a crime. I believe the state of Virginia executed a man who was later proven to have been innocent of the particular crime. Several people have been released from death row after evidence like DNA has cleared them. I just do not see a way around that.
To live in a style that most of us have embraced as "normal" involves cruelty to animals. To have many of the useful and common day to day products around, we have already subjected animals to horrible conditions. The same can besaid about food production practices and keeping fish in aquariums.
Were I about to go blind (fill in your most feared disease), it likely would not matter how many or under what conditions lab animals had to suffer. I can work up sympathy for their plight but I really, really do not want to be blind. I can hope that the least harmful effective techniques will be used and the fewest number of test subjects used.
