How much do Gila Monsters go for?

[Lepisosteus platyrhincus]

Rare venomomous lizards should just be given away, right? And Yes, Somebody with limited funds SHOULD NOT own precious animals. Call me stupid. Lack of money usually means lack of responsibility, This is prevalent in the working industry. Can you provide this animals natural diet? hell no. Im sure there are some good owners out there who arnt all that wealthy, but im talking about majority here. Im simply not just talking about gila maintainance, thats not all that expensive or hard, there are just alot of factors in play here. What? are you gonna sell the family car to take it to the vet? Same basis as a Van Gogh painting in a trailer. Something stupid will happen sooner or later. If you want a rare pet, you have to pay the price.
Your arguement relying on husbandry, which again isnt even what i was really talking about.
What you are saying is, just because a bobcat will eat catfood, it shouldnt cost $5,000. Talk about asinine.

Lack of money means lack of responcibility? seriously dude??
I have a good stable job. With this i take care of my wife and son. I bought a nice but not too expensive house, and make sure i can care for my family. I dont have a ton of extra money, but thats because im not responsible right? I mean, i choose to have my son. I pay for everything myself, am on no gov. assitence(no offence to those who are) and can provide pretty damn well for my family. But because I dont have a ton of extra cash to buy a 5000 dollar bobcat, i wouldnt be able to care for it right?

Dude, u need to open ur eyes, get off ur high freakin horse and join the real world not ur fantasy relm. Money has nothing to do with being able to care for someone.

I grew up poor as S***. If not for my father being talented at hunting and fishing and my mother being good at growing a garden I would have starved. My family provided the best they could for me and my siblings. They worked and now we have reaped the benefits. They were poor but they provided for us. But by ur standards, no money means they were irrisponsible right?

Oh and ur bobcat example, Ur dog can do more damage than a 30lb bobcat. Most dogs(pitbull, great dane, rottwieler and most medium to large breeds) can do far more damage. I would trust a gila far more than most dogs. Dogs attack more people in ur own state that peoples HOTs do. And we have few to almost no laws regarding them.

 

[snakeguy101]

Rare venomomous lizards should just be given away, right? And Yes, Somebody with limited funds SHOULD NOT own precious animals. Call me stupid. Lack of money usually means lack of responsibility, This is prevalent in the working industry. Can you provide this animals natural diet? hell no. Im sure there are some good owners out there who arnt all that wealthy, but im talking about majority here. Im simply not just talking about gila maintainance, thats not all that expensive or hard, there are just alot of factors in play here. What? are you gonna sell the family car to take it to the vet? Same basis as a Van Gogh painting in a trailer. Something stupid will happen sooner or later. If you want a rare pet, you have to pay the price.
Your arguement relying on husbandry, which again isnt even what i was really talking about.
What you are saying is, just because a bobcat will eat catfood, it shouldnt cost $5,000. Talk about asinine.

Chill out bro. Just think about it this way: even though a snake or Gila monster costs a ton of money, it would cost the SAME AMOUNT to keep once it was acquired as any other "normal pet" like a savanna monitor or ball python. And your comment about having no money equaling a lack f responsibility is WAY out there (especially in this economy where I know doctorates with out jobs).

I am a full time student and between that and caring for my animals, I dont have time for a job. I make just enough off of financial aid and student loans to pay the bills and what I need and have a little left over to expand my collection each year. It certainly isnt 1500 left over but it is more than enough to cover the CARE of a $1500 animal which is only a few dollars a week for mice and electricity.

 

[FishingOut]

Yeah seriously, Salaries are determined on how responsible said person is in their field. Hences why managers make more than employees. This only mildly cordinates to HOW people are going to raise there pets. Same reason why McD's employee shouldnt blow a paycheck on a caymen. It leads to irresponsibility.
Comparing a gila to a dog is apples to oranges. But we will try it. Im not going to run statistics but if every home that had a dog was replaced by a gila the death rate would X1000. Dogs are a man-made domesticated creature, whos liability relays on the owner. Compared to a "instinctually violent venomous giant reptile". Comparing my frenchie to a bobcat is asinine as well.
I dont care about your life, But Im glad you can take care of your family. But if you had a Gila, It would put your son at risk. Comparing a Gila to a Son is unjust. Money has everything to do with caring. Where would your wife and son be right now with no money? If your sons starts bleeding out his eyes, what do you do with no money? You talk in circles. Id kill anybody to keep my family safe, I cant say the same for a lizard.
And for the 5th time Im not talking bout housing and foods. Im talking exotic pet. And you keep comparing the responsibility of a Son to a Girl monster. Not even remotely comparable.

 

[snakeguy101]

I don't get what you are saying then. You said that you are not talking about the cost of the care of an animal but those without money can't afford to care for an animal? Make up your mind and tell us what you mean.

Edit: and please proof read it too so that it makes sense this time.

 

[packer43064]

Yeah seriously, Salaries are determined on how responsible said person is in their field. Hences why managers make more than employees. This only mildly cordinates to HOW people are going to raise there pets. Same reason why McD's employee shouldnt blow a paycheck on a caymen. It leads to irresponsibility.
Comparing a gila to a dog is apples to oranges. But we will try it. Im not going to run statistics but if every home that had a dog was replaced by a gila the death rate would X1000. Dogs are a man-made domesticated creature, whos liability relays on the owner. Compared to a "instinctually violent venomous giant reptile". Comparing my frenchie to a bobcat is asinine as well.
I dont care about your life, But Im glad you can take care of your family. But if you had a Gila, It would put your son at risk. Comparing a Gila to a Son is unjust. Money has everything to do with caring. Where would your wife and son be right now with no money? If your sons starts bleeding out his eyes, what do you do with no money? You talk in circles. Id kill anybody to keep my family safe, I cant say the same for a lizard.
And for the 5th time Im not talking bout housing and foods. Im talking exotic pet. And you keep comparing the responsibility of a Son to a Girl monster. Not even remotely comparable.

Depending on the career.

Most managers I know got the job because they "knew" the right person. Didn't have a lick to do with their expertise. I get what your saying but seriously being a manager and making 10X what the employee makes doesn't mean they weren't the employee at one time. Being responsible doesn't come with money if your a responsible 20 year old then your responsible when your 45 and making bank.

Your philosophy is flawed. It doesn't take money to be a responsible owner.

 

[Swampy459]

I agree with chris and packer, although I must admit I gave up 3/4 thru one of your posts because it was incoherent.

 

[FishingOut]

My opinion stands. Point being: Rare dangorous animals should be expensive to cull out all the unresponsible owners. I had a fake ID when i was 16, you dont think i can fake a reptile lisence? Of couse the hobbiest wants the animal for cheap, but its not within the best interest of anybody or anything. And if this is not what i have stated, or you think otherwise, than i dont think pet-keeping is even for you.
SnakeGuy- I said if a problem presents itself with a rare animal, You better be prepared to handle it. You may want to read it again, if it didnt "sink in" the first time.
Sorry- I smoke alot of herbs, my thoughts are all over the place. You'd have to read other posts to relate what ive been talking about.

 

[packer43064]

My opinion stands. Point being: Rare dangorous animals should be expensive to cull out all the unresponsible owners. I had a fake ID when i was 16, you dont think i can fake a reptile lisence? Of couse the hobbiest wants the animal for cheap, but its not within the best interest of anybody or anything. And if this is not what i have stated, or you think otherwise, than i dont think pet-keeping is even for you.
SnakeGuy- I said if a problem presents itself with a rare animal, You better be prepared to handle it. You may want to read it again, if it didnt "sink in" the first time.
Sorry- I smoke alot of herbs, my thoughts are all over the place. You'd have to read other posts to relate what ive been talking about.

Ding! DIng! Ding! There's the problem.

I'm sorry but I just don't understand what the blimey hell your saying. I have no sympathy for "herb" users.

 

[snakeguy101]

My opinion stands. Point being: Rare dangorous animals should be expensive to cull out all the unresponsible owners. I had a fake ID when i was 16, you dont think i can fake a reptile lisence? Of couse the hobbiest wants the animal for cheap, but its not within the best interest of anybody or anything. And if this is not what i have stated, or you think otherwise, than i dont think pet-keeping is even for you.
SnakeGuy- I said if a problem presents itself with a rare animal, You better be prepared to handle it. You may want to read it again, if it didnt "sink in" the first time.
Sorry- I smoke alot of herbs, my thoughts are all over the place. You'd have to read other posts to relate what ive been talking about.

I dare you to find me a public vet that will treat my cobras if they got sick. I think that if a problem presents itself with something of this caliber then the owner need to fix it themselves because it is almost impossible to find good herp vets (much less ones that will take venomous). This way you do not need to have thousands of dollars laying around just in case.

Furthermore, if proper husbandry is taking place then there will not be any problems that present themselves.

Maybe you should just stop posting until you are no longer high and grow up a little more.

 

[snakeguy101]

ooops sorry lol i completely forgot id started this thread.

anyways, sorry for ruining your thread, I didn't think it would take such a sharp turn south. Getting back on topic, I saw some nice ones for sale today. High yellow reticulated gila babies for $1500. A bit on the high side but that is the price you pay for the morphs. Like I said, the normals can be found for circa $800 if you are patient and look hard enough.