I just wanted to throw this out there.

[ShadowStryder]

Ive seen small rays in huge aquariums climb walls and larger rays in smaller
aquariums not climb walls. Also seen large rays climb walls in huge very
large aquariums. Mikes 4000 gallon tank video is an example of that.
Bears, lions and such patrol and are territorial, covering 100s of square
miles, thus giving them the basic instinct to want to roam looking for intruders
or females in heat.
While rays, might travel in a linear path up and down a river system, I don't
believe it is there basic instinct to patrol this type of range. Of course I could
totally be wrong.
All I do know is that I have a larger female who never climbs, a small male
who seldom climbs and a small female who constantly climbs. Are they playing,
exercising or just depressed I don't know, I guess we will never know unless
we can read the minds of animals.

I do know they are very intelligent as my larger female has learned to shove a large round
rock around looking for food that may have settled around it.

 

[Bottomfeeder]

Huh. I'm no Ray expert, but i just wanna throw in that the Roughtail Ray at the Coney Island Aquarium climbs the side walls of his 90,000g tank...just sayin'...

 

[Tom]

You all have got it twisted.

intresting BUT my rays are captive bred and have never been in any river so i was just wondering how you explain why they climb the walls

dont feed the troll

Take a captive breed tiger or bet yet human child and place it in a cage with little stimulation and watch how it bahaves.

Your in deep water my friend.

Do you have anything to back up your claims? A report? A study of stingray behaviour in captivity?

Mabye you should have started your sentence with "I think that..."

Random flaming is a bad thing Tom.

Read this, it might explain why stingrays love bobbels.

http://www.zoovienna.at/e/rochen.html

Random flaming is a bad thing. Too bad you are wasting your time because I am not flaming anyone. I think lazyness in not reading an entire thread and then posting is a bad thing. But hey, I'm just sayin.

I don't need to present evidence. A simple google search will provide you and anyone else with information on the subject. Lions, tigers, elephants ect.

Maybe you should have read my thread. "Perhaps it has something to do" were my exact words. I stated that it was a theory. I don't have any reason to cover my ass.

You take animals that naturally have an endless amount of space and put them in a tiny glass box in comparison and they will might exhibit odd behaviour.

ON THA REAL, I believe these animals that incessantly bounce up and down the glass are under stimulated. I interact with my rays every day to help keep their minds occupied. I know several other ray keepers that do the same thing. Perhaps adding toys and things for them to investigate would help keep them better occupied.

To say that the constant "bouncing up and down" is normal behaviour, is ludacris.

 

[turkeyboy85]

I have raised quite a few rays myself, i have noticed that when rays are younger they tend to explore more the adult rays, as my rays got older they wouldnt climb the sides as much as they would when they were younger in fact the only time they would is when i would hand feed them, I think it has something to do with exploring, and just having fun.

 

[Tom]

I have raised quite a few rays myself, i have noticed that when rays are younger they tend to explore more the adult rays, as my rays got older they wouldnt climb the sides as much as they would when they were younger in fact the only time they would is when i would hand feed them, I think it has something to do with exploring, and just having fun.

I agree with your last statement. These animals have much more intelligence than most give them credit for.

 

[Gshock]

Random flaming is a bad thing. Too bad you are wasting your time because I am not flaming anyone. I think lazyness in not reading an entire thread and then posting is a bad thing. But hey, I'm just sayin.

I don't need to present evidence. A simple google search will provide you and anyone else with information on the subject. Lions, tigers, elephants ect.

Maybe you should have read my thread. "Perhaps it has something to do" were my exact words. I stated that it was a theory. I don't have any reason to cover my ass.

You take animals that naturally have an endless amount of space and put them in a tiny glass box in comparison and they will might exhibit odd behaviour.

ON THA REAL, I believe these animals that incessantly bounce up and down the glass are under stimulated. I interact with my rays every day to help keep their minds occupied. I know several other ray keepers that do the same thing. Perhaps adding toys and things for them to investigate would help keep them better occupied.

To say that the constant "bouncing up and down" is normal behaviour, is ludacris.

Actually, all I see is you being one gigantic ass and trying to make everyone else feel like crap to make yourself feel/look better since you cannot provide ample amounts of space for YOUR fish lol. I don't see tons of these "why does my ray crawl the sides" threads. Neither do I see why it is ludacris to say that constant bouncing is normal behaviour. Might as well say rays that don't burry themselves are messed up. Some just do it, some just don't its as easy as that.

 

[Tom]

Actually, all I see is you being one gigantic ass and trying to make everyone else feel like crap to make yourself feel/look better since you cannot provide ample amounts of space for YOUR fish lol. I don't see tons of these "why does my ray crawl the sides" threads. Neither do I see why it is ludacris to say that constant bouncing is normal behaviour. Might as well say rays that don't burry themselves are messed up. Some just do it, some just don't its as easy as that.

Bahahahahahahaahaha!

How am I trying to make anyone feel like crap?

Ignorant asses like you just get **** twisted 24/7. Get a life. Some of you seem to be taking this way to personally. Perhaps you just don't want to accept the idea that your hobby is a form of animal cruelty. I am not trying to get all "PETA" on you, but why is my theory so offensive?

Ps: You should come to my house and see my MASSIVE indoor ray pond.

 

[SpeshulEd]

hehe, I love threads that let me break out the trollcats.

 

[Bottomfeeder]

This is going to end well, I can tell.

 

[Iffrat]

well i plan on installing a amazon river in my yard as soon as i can so that my fish are happy ..

i might even go to the local pond and pull the fish out of there ... i dont know how they got there but its only like 20 feed across and thats so much smaller then the bigger pond that is 50 feet across

but after i get them into my river .. i might go to some of the major lakes around and scoop the fish out and put them into lake Michigan .. since thats the largest freshwater body of water around me .

if you think about it .. EVERY PET is the same .. you take a dog or cat that would roam miles in a single day and put them into your house .. same thing .. what what about people with horses or cows ..

if you dont like it and feel its not fair .... dont belong to a fish forum and go join PETA

oh and dont forget about people in jail .. we are animals too .. maybe we should let them go ..