I think this needs to be addressed again

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Every time I look at the "For Sale" and "Looking For" market sections on this site, I shake my head.
Why is it that we continually see people trying to keep river monsters in aquariums?
I am always seeing people trying to sell their enormous arowana that outgrew their tank, their Red Tail catfish that is too big, or my favorite from this morning on the Facebook page-someone wondering why their Goliath African Tiger fish died -.-
Do people not know how big these fish get, that they grow, and that unless you have a 400 gallon fish tank, you should not be keeping these pets?
I can’t tell you how many times I have bought something from someone on this forum; I go into their “fish room” and see giants in tanks that are not suitable for them.
Would you keep your dog in a small cage 24/7? Well it is no different keeping an arowana or large catfish in a 125 gallon tank.
I am not going to sit here and completely point fingers; I used to be guilty of it too. Until I saw arowanas in their natural habitat; they swim great distance daily, and it is a part of their natural routine to jump out of the water in attempt to eat insects or whatever else is several feet above the surface. That helped show me how grossly inappropriate it is to keep them confined in a fish tank.

All I am asking you to do is think about what you are buying. Don’t use the excuse “Oh I plan to upgrade my tank later”, because we all know you aren’t. Don’t assume that when it gets too big for your aquarium that you are just going to be able to dump it off on someone else down the road. Very few people have tanks suitable for these big fish. No, a 125 gallon tank is not big enough.
The blame also falls on the local fish shops. They should not be bringing in inventory that they know no one is going to be able to legitimately care for. That being said, I would appreciate and commend any local fish shop that stops and says they are not going to do that anymore.

These fish are our pets, please be respectful and responsible with them.
 
Money. The single reason that will never happen. There is an LFS near me that has 2 RTC, 1 RTCxTSN, and a wyckii in a single 125 tank. All those fish are around 2' long. The better LFS down the road regularly has a tank filled with RTC's about 5" long, and TSN's on occasion. They sell every type of arowana you could ever possibly hope to buy, and not one tank for sale over 125 gallons. Its all money to them. A tank full of adorable "tiny" rtc's, at 8-10 bucks a shot, and a bunch of unknowing people with cash to burn is great for business and terrible for the fish.
 
Every time I look at the "For Sale" and "Looking For" market sections on this site, I shake my head.
Why is it that we continually see people trying to keep river monsters in aquariums?
I am always seeing people trying to sell their enormous arowana that outgrew their tank, their Red Tail catfish that is too big, or my favorite from this morning on the Facebook page-someone wondering why their Goliath African Tiger fish died -.-
Do people not know how big these fish get, that they grow, and that unless you have a 400 gallon fish tank, you should not be keeping these pets?
I can’t tell you how many times I have bought something from someone on this forum; I go into their “fish room” and see giants in tanks that are not suitable for them.
Would you keep your dog in a small cage 24/7? Well it is no different keeping an arowana or large catfish in a 125 gallon tank.
I am not going to sit here and completely point fingers; I used to be guilty of it too. Until I saw arowanas in their natural habitat; they swim great distance daily, and it is a part of their natural routine to jump out of the water in attempt to eat insects or whatever else is several feet above the surface. That helped show me how grossly inappropriate it is to keep them confined in a fish tank.

All I am asking you to do is think about what you are buying. Don’t use the excuse “Oh I plan to upgrade my tank later”, because we all know you aren’t. Don’t assume that when it gets too big for your aquarium that you are just going to be able to dump it off on someone else down the road. Very few people have tanks suitable for these big fish. No, a 125 gallon tank is not big enough.
The blame also falls on the local fish shops. They should not be bringing in inventory that they know no one is going to be able to legitimately care for. That being said, I would appreciate and commend any local fish shop that stops and says they are not going to do that anymore.

These fish are our pets, please be respectful and responsible with them.

Some of us actually upgrade.

When I started on here i had a 29 gallon. I now have over 14 tanks and I'm about to setup a 300 gallon were not all like that :D:D:D:D:D

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*For businesses it's just about Money...Money and money!
*If you compare our fishes with their own nature habitat then we absolutely have no right to keep them :D It doesn't matter how you trying to keep them comfy in your glass box, it's not even close to its own nature habitats.
*90% LFS daily customers are casual or completely newbie and ton of parent buying fish for their kids because their kids wanted it. How many time you seeing someone visit a LFS and walked out with an Arapaima? LOL I did ask some folks about their tank before and like you said their biggest tank around 75~125 gallons...Do they gonna listen to me and return the fish? Absolutely NO and some even said "It's not your bussiness...it's my money and I wanted that fish I'll buy it..."
 
I can only speak about my own personal situation

I've kept specific monster fish that I know would outgrow my 110 and 180 and I never had plans to upgrade

where i'm at it's easy to move the particular ones I kept once they get too big.

i would do it again too, because you get to enjoy them for couple of years or so
 
Well some people have good intentions but fall on hard times....personally I have a 7x4x2 tank so I can house a fair number of fish, prior to having such a large tank I owned RTC etc. In a small tank....at the time I had all the intention to upgrade but just came on hard times.....it happens.....not saying it's right ....not at all but just my input.

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I'm guilty.

I got a sick, near death adult oscar from my LFS for $8 about 3 or 4 years ago. HITH, fin rot, the works. I didn't have the means to house him, but I knew he would just suffer and die as I watched him lay on his side in a 29g at the store.

I couldn't leave him there so I brought him home and stuck him in an empty 20h I had with some seeded media. I did daily water changes and wanted to make sure he was going to turn around before I spent the time and money on a better setup. He made it through the week and started eating live food so I put him in a 40b. I nursed him fully back to health in there. I kept him in there for too long in my opinion. But eventually I did upgrade.

Now he's in a 75g and doing very well with beautiful colors. I'm close to buying a house and order of business #1 is a 6ft tank in my basement man cave for my Oscar so he can have some roommates.

Some people do upgrade. Sadly often times they never do.



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I'm guilty.

I got a sick, near death adult oscar from my LFS for $8 about 3 or 4 years ago. HITH, fin rot, the works. I didn't have the means to house him, but I knew he would just suffer and die as I watched him lay on his side in a 29g at the store.

I couldn't leave him there so I brought him home and stuck him in an empty 20h I had with some seeded media. I did daily water changes and wanted to make sure he was going to turn around before I spent the time and money on a better setup. He made it through the week and started eating live food so I put him in a 40b. I nursed him fully back to health in there. I kept him in there for too long in my opinion. But eventually I did upgrade.

Now he's in a 75g and doing very well with beautiful colors. I'm close to buying a house and order of business #1 is a 6ft tank in my basement man cave for my Oscar so he can have some roommates.

Some people do upgrade. Sadly often times they never do.



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IMO a rescue is better than an impulse buy.
 
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