Ich Help Urgent!!!! Please help!!!!

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we4wieners said:
I agree. I believe it may be velvet also. I was working with the storm and was not home for a few days and I came home to this. The rid ich treated it, but I do believe it to be velvet also. The other loaches had some spots on them and one much more than the others. However, they all cleared up. Ill dose some ant-bacterial stuff today...suggestions as to what you use?
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Your lucky you did go to an aggressive medication first, or you possibly could have lost many more fish.. Velvet is nasty.. And gets worse if you raise the temp and salt does nothing...

And erythromycin is a good one.


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I generally use a combo of melafix and pima fix at 1/2 the reccomended dose at 78 or lower temps. Once it seems to clear up the visual problem, and a few water changes later i raise the temp.. I'm not a big user of "medications" so i can't give you any suggestions there. and yeah.. this time of year seems to be hot for ick/velvet outbreaks.. and when the colder weather moves in.. wonder if to many tank hit a low temp swing and start compromising systems.. If your guys are looking better and eatign well I would just leave your temp up in the low 80's and let them recover, sorry about your one guy.. when they are that covered.. one can only imagine how bad their gill tissue has been damaged, some fish can survive it.. some not.

also make sure your monitoring your nitrate levels.. I see it most when nitrates get higher or are consistantly high.. then the tank gets "cold" even overnight. the eleveated nitrates in an otherwise healthy system seem to help these diseases and i surmise others get a foothold. since i started keeping nitrates in the 40ppm range or less if able and my TDS/DOC's as low as possible i haven't had an ick outbreak now in 2yrs. :: knocks on wood:: No clue if there is scientific data to back this up or not, but this is what i've witnessed in my tanks, and come to theorize/understand.
 
probassfisher010 said:
Your lucky you did go to an aggressive medication first, or you possibly could have lost many more fish.. Velvet is nasty.. And gets worse if you raise the temp and salt does nothing...

And erythromycin is a good one.


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I wonder if I had velvet. It LOOKED like Ich, but I really have no idea. What I do know is the temp was all the way up to 88, salt, daily 25% water changes and ich attack didn't even slow it down. Supposedly the higher heat accelerates the Ich cycle which is the intention when using meds to maximize the chances that the meds are in the tank at the right stage to kill them. I have also heard that above a certain temp (86 I think..) then they can't reproduce at all.

Again I saw nothing improve so I either had a vicious strain that was more hardy than most experience or something else.
 
should i try and lower thhe temp to 78 then treat them... or does temperature not matter in the case of effective meds? I just want this stuff gone they are in a 10g qt tank... or just leave temp at 87 plus i ran out of salt. but i will take more pics when i get home for further help.
 
Coppersafe is basically a copper sulfate medicine. It is very stable...it will last in your tanks for months, and you need to only add more to the tank if you do water change. I used it in my tanks and have not seen any side effects on my scaleless fish.

Drawbacks: Copper can and will be obsorbed by some stuff in the tank, so tank treated with copper is generally unsafe for freshwater inverts in the future as well as reefs tanks unless copper testing confirms no copper residue remains in the system.
 
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