Iclusion Body Disease.
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sorry for your loss. she was a gorgeous snake. i'll ask around too and see if we can get to the bottom of this mystery.
snakeguy101;4319420; said:
Because it has wiped out multi-million dollar collections, put people out of business, destroyed many peoples years of hard work, and has caused general mayhem in the Boa/Python world for quite a few years now.........
EricIvins;4319653; said:
I know but why do you not think that is what it was? What do you think it was?
dont u usually have a lil longer with ibd? i know its a quick acting disease but surely not by a day.
u have pythons around too?
sorry for ur loss hun :-(
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u have pythons around too?
sorry for ur loss hun :-(
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EricIvins;4318886; said:
its not like hes blaming anyone. hes obviously checking because if it is it could have passed round to any other boas and pythons he may have
plus i thought ibd was an underlying disease, kinda like cancer. where everyone has the cells but it depends on if they turn cancerous...if that makes sense.
chloe;4319781; said:its not like hes blaming anyone. hes obviously checking because if it is it could have passed round to any other boas and pythons he may have
plus i thought ibd was an underlying disease, kinda like cancer. where everyone has the cells but it depends on if they turn cancerous...if that makes sense.
It's not anything like Cancer. It kills Pythons within 2-6 Weeks after the onset of symptoms. Symptoms in Pythons can occur anywhere from a few days or weeks after being exposed. Boas can carry it for up to 2 years, maybe longer, before symptoms occur. That's the thing......IBD is a bunch of symptoms, and all manifest differently per individual. The only way to identify that an animal has IBD is to do biopsies on the Brain and Liver post mortem, and even then, results are usually inconclusive. Any living thing has Inclusion Bodies at any given point in time. Especially if the animal is dealing with anything out of the norm. The way IBD is diagnosed is if those Inclusion Bodies are in certain concentrations at certain points in the body, and that in itself can lead to things being construed/mis-construed as IBD. The research has been done, but that reasearch has led to more questions than answers. It has also been found in other species.........
Living things die. Could've been anything or everything. Goes back to the "only thing in life that's guaranteed is death and taxes". I bet that animal died on the hotspot, and decomposition was accelerated. I've had that happen, and have had stuff literally fall apart in 6 hours if left on the basking spot. It happens, I've had stuff that looked pristine die on me, and I've had stuff that deaths door wouldn't take live for forever. That's the way this game goes........
It makes sense. not too long ago there was something called sudden serpent death which was diagnosed as if it was a disease after a snake died for no apparent reason. This was quickly determined to be unscientific but it is an example of how little we know when it comes to diseases and viruses or other deadly factors in reptiles. Humans have hundreds of thousands of diseases that we have discovered and as much as I have read, heard and had experience with snakes, I know of about 3 illnesses that are not caused by environmental factors. It is naive to think that we know everything about snakes, even the most common ones.
