If a Dovii were going to be a psychotic killer....

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Man........ Oh nevermind.....

Anyway, I've had several dovii in community situations. The first catalyst to trouble is the presence of a female. Another is the presence of a "competitor" -- i.e. another Parachromis of similar species. The third catalyst is an attempt to put a specimen that has been isolated most of its life into a community situation.

Ultimately, it all comes down to tank/pond size. As I've noted before, I recently gave away a huge specimen that got along just fine in a 1500 pond with 30 or 40 other cichlids of all types and sizes. That fish was part of a breeding pair (the female was much smaller) that spent most of their time protecting their brood. In a body of water that size, they were able to satisfy themselves that they didn't have to stalk and kill everythng else in the pond. In fact, I saw very little difference in the behavior of the other fish in the tank when the dovii pair bred. The dovii were absolutely psychotic toward me though! Feeding time was quite an adventure.

Keep in mind the two reason a dovii is aggressive: 1. To secure an appropriate feeding territory (from which they will expell all other piscivores if they can). 2. To secure and defend a breeding territory. Outside of that, anything that isn't seen as food is often pretty safe..... in the wild.

In an aquarium, though, we see a lot of pathological behavior from our cichlids. This is the result of isolation and a stimulus poor environment. So, the better you can replicate a healthy environment, the more natural the behavior of your fish.

Right now I have two females and a male (just medium sized fish for now) in a 10' x 4' outdoor tank with a couple of dozen other cichlids. All they do all day is work the water hyacinth and parrot feather for moaquito fish snacks!

Basically, if you have enough water (1000+ in the case of a large specimen), you can do just about anything. Just make sure his tankmates aren't seen as food or competitors.
 
That is awesome!Hope it works out for Ya!
 
balton777;2170507; said:
wouldn't you know by 13"?

Here's the story on the Dovii.

The lady at the lfs said the Dovii was orginally purchased at 2" by a long time regular customer and raised in a large 440 gallon community CA tank. The guy had to get rid of his tanks and gave all the fish to them. He told her he cohabitated fine with the others and never bothered anyone. The lfs had him for a week before I came in and she kept referring to him as a big baby and gentle giant even putting her hand in and petting him. After observing him for a couple of days, I believe her.

I know what you guys are going to think because my tank is much smaller than the other guy's 440 but today I took the biggest Jag out of the 265 and put in the 13" Dovii. So far he just swims around checking everything out.

Sometimes you just have to take chances to see what will work. The cichlids in jeopardy are a 10" Jag, 6-7" Grammodes and 4.5" Festae. They have plenty of get away places if the Dovii snaps.

Wish me luck.

:screwy::screwy::screwy:

The dovii will need to settle and be properly aclimated to his new environment before you'll notice any major changes in behavior (showing it's dominance of the tank). This may or may not happen.

It's male?
 
When i first got my male at 4" he was kept with an 8" Jag, 6" Dempsey, and (2) 6" Severums. Once the Dovii reached about 6" he nearly killed the Jag and Dempsey over night. Ever since then he lives by himself and will Tolerate no tankmates...he even attacks people through the glass as they enter the room.

I think if yours was going to snap it would have happened quite a while ago. Good luck and hope things continue to work.
 
Well guys, thanks for all the support. I figured I was going to get a bunch of negativity on this. I almost forgot that we're MFK'ers and we take fishkeeping to the extreme right? I'm keeping an eye on them and I have my wife and kids keeping a watch on the aggression too while I'm at work. If I'm not home and things go awry, my wife and daughter are willing to switch the Dovii and Jag back around (Which I can't believe I talked my wife into lol). My wife LOVES the Dovii. It's the first fish she's taken an interest in since I lost my Green Terror after 8 years. She says, "It's because he has a happy smiling face".


DAY 2 Update-Dovii in community tank

I woke up this morning to a big surprise. The Dovii and Jag were swimming together like buddies. I fed them and they ate together at the surface with no fighting, flaring or nashing of teeth.

It appears the Dovii has claimed the left one-third of the tank. He has a small fortress built where he can hide under/behind a big log. The Jag's territory is the right hand side of the tank where he has a hide out too under his big piece of driftwood. I'm still watching and waiting for all this to blow up in my face. I'll let you guys know how it goes.
 
I hope its not just calm before the storm. That would be a pity. Sometimes you just can't get around instincts. :(

Best of luck to you mate. Hope it works out for the best! :)
 
Peanut_Power said:
I hope its not just calm before the storm. That would be a pity. Sometimes you just can't get around instincts.

Me too. While it lasts, I'm really enjoying seeing the Dovii interact with the Jag. I took this video on the first day. I'll shoot some new footage in a few more days (if it lasts that long) after everyone is comfortable and settled in.

Check out 1 minutes/30seconds where the Senegal gives my Festae a kiss lmao.

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balton777;2172346; said:
Me too. While it lasts, I'm really enjoying seeing the Dovii interact with the Jag. I took this video on the first day. I'll shoot some new footage in a few more days (if it lasts that long) after everyone is comfortable and settled in.

Check out 1 minutes/30seconds where the Senegal gives my Festae a kiss lmao.

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Nice vid! you have some beautiful fish there! How big is that sen?
 
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