I'm confused about Alligator Gars

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X24;943697; said:
well then, i got a sorce wrong or you got a sample wrong, but thats one lake i've heard has them.

keeping a fish and it being suited for captivity are two different things. i can keep an alligator gar alive in a big tub of water, but it wouldn't be suited for captivity there. an olympic swimming pool would probably be the only way to go to keep an alligator gar in captivity with it being "suited for captivity"

but you can't get a big enough tank to hold a whale shark, and you can't deny that. which if one thing proves a statement wrong, the statement is wrong.

This is not a difficult concept is it?
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Sorry I did not sample wrong...I do this for a living..I know my gars and I do not mistake Alligators for longnosed..That lake has Longnosed and longnosed only.I was there looking for Spotteds just recently and found none despite historical records. News flash I actually work with these things and get paid for it in Michigan....Not a newbie dude I know my stuff and know it well...There is very little of this state I have not sampled or looked into...

There are no Alligators established in Michigan. Two have popped up as obvious releases and that is it. In both cases the fish where obvious pet dumps and no where near Muskegon lake. they where on my side of the state and I saw them both and Identified them..

For the rest I repeat:
No species of fish is 'Not suited' for captivity, there are just some people that should not keep them.

Do your research and only keep what you can keep..

Why this simple statement makes no sense to you is really amusing....
 
Ha ha ha...
Kind of funny I happened to read this As I was being kicked off the site again..
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Yep well I guess we have some false advertising going on now don't we...Your actually not allowed to keep big fish by virtue of a select few here and your really not allowed to go to the "next level" as this would be wrong...

Anyone care to seriously respond to the above by our own great leader Neo ??????
 
I think what polypterus is trying to say is... some people can care for this type of animal. Yes, for the average joe... maybe it wouldn't be possible, but some people do have "swimming pool" sized tanks and ponds etc. The point is, things can be kept in captive care, so long as you meet to their needs.
 
davo;943814; said:
I think what polypterus is trying to say is... some people can care for this type of animal. Yes, for the average joe... maybe it wouldn't be possible, but some people do have "swimming pool" sized tanks and ponds etc. The point is, things can be kept in captive care, so long as you meet to their needs.
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I think I did say just that but then a couple of individuals needed to say something stupid for the sake of saying something stupid....seems as though if some say anything around here it must be followed by crap...And then some wonder why it is this forum annoys the crap out of some at times...it is a 24/7 kiddie pool with no option of getting serious on most subjects...
 
so you say this isn't getting serious?

i have no doubt people have huge tanks, but the thing is a whale shark is all but impossible to keep.

but let me bring up something that might tickle your brain. the takifugu puffer is a fish that IS impossible to keep no matter what you do. the greatest puffer experts couldn't keep it alive for more then 5 months in captivity, when the life span has been measured to be 15 years or more in the wild. if the most advanced best puffer experts can't keep it for more then 3% of it's life span that i'm pretty sure that species is impossible to keep in captivity.
 
is it just me or did this thread go from the care of gator gar to whale sharks and now pufferfish?
 
yes, but i don't like losing an argument that i'm sure i am on the winning side of. i'm sorry if i've dragged this out, but perhaps we can move this to a new thread in general fish keeping and we can have people vote on it aswell.
 
but let me bring up something that might tickle your brain. the takifugu puffer is a fish that IS impossible to keep no matter what you do. the greatest puffer experts couldn't keep it alive for more then 5 months in captivity, when the life span has been measured to be 15 years or more in the wild. if the most advanced best puffer experts can't keep it for more then 3% of it's life span that i'm pretty sure that species is impossible to keep in captivity.
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Here let me tickle your brain....I keep candiru (Vandellia cirrhosa) in captivity and have spawned them..All of this was unthinkable just a few years ago..No one thought of it nor ever thought it could be done..I did it...Years ago when all where saying Polypterus species where not possible I was spawning them..I was spawning several lamprey when many where saying they could not be kept. I have also spawned many other species normally said to be impossible to spawn or keep in captivity..I'm sorry but it is the person behind the fish that makes it a success or failure..Resources and effort very much help. I have put thousands into my Candiru work and another several thousand into my gar work. If someone would put equal resources and time to a takifugu I'm sure they would find how to work with them...

What do you think you winning here???
 
thats where you are wrong, thousands and thousands have been put into trying to keep them in captivity. ever hear of the japanese food fugu? thats what is made out of certain takifugu puffers. it sells very good, and likewise many many people have tried to find a way to keep these captive (not just fish keepers but those looking for big money for resturuants and the like) , but none have succeeded. It is an impossible to keep fish in captivity.
 
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