interest in glowing cichlids

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i understand perfectly what you are trying to accomplish. i agree that it would in no way shape or form hurt the fish. however, i will leave you with a quote from one of my favorite movies as it seems that you have only good intentions in what you are trying to accomplish.

"Some of the worst things imaginable have been done with the best intentions."
-Jurassic Park III
 
slammer said:
I see a market for it. And I understand perfectly what you are saying. This would in no way impact an aquarium kept fish. Pay no attention to the flamers no disrespect intended but I doubt they even realize what your talking about and irregardless their is no need to flame anyone about something that is just in the research stage anyway...If your succesful and the process eventually replaces dyed fish on the market just think of how many fish your totally harmless process could save.

Bo
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No one is flaming on him. They just express their opinions here. Not everyone on this forum is ignorant. If someone took freshman biology in college, he or she probably understands the simple technique using GFP.
 
If something is better for fish and prevents cruelty, would you prevent based upon your own morals and continue to rage at those who perform what cruelty it could replace.

You make it sound like science is like skydiving, or playing with dynamite. So I guess **** REALLY hit the fan when antibiotics were developed, saving millions. Or maybe it was when chemotherapy was developed. Perhaps when scientists in the middle ages managed to convince everybody that soap was in fact, good for people. Or maybe. just maybe, when scientists invented the pH scale, hydrodynamics, electricty, and the multitude of other things that allow you to keep your fish alive.

I see a way to do good and I want to do it without sacrificing my livelihood. So if you want to continue to complain without doing anything, and persecute me for attempting to solve the problem actively, you go ahead and do that. But if you want to make a compromise with others like a civilised person, come back and see me.

oh, and they're not mutants, they are simply triploid GMOs
 
Antibiotics and other medical, scientific accomplishments, were created for a purpose - to save people and animals. What's the purpose to creating glowing fish, other than pure profit? Its ridiculous that mankind is at a stage in its evolution where nothing else matters but ourselves now, and we feel that we're so much better than everything else on this planet - most of which we couldn't survive without - that we get to decide the fate of everything around us. It may not 'harm' the fish persay, but why the hell can't we just leave the damn things alone. Why do you need to modify, mutilate, destroy, whatever, just because we think we're so superior. Just because we can do something, doesn't mean that we should. Its sick.
 
SinisterKisses said:
Antibiotics and other medical, scientific accomplishments, were created for a purpose - to save people and animals. What's the purpose to creating glowing fish, other than pure profit? Its ridiculous that mankind is at a stage in its evolution where nothing else matters but ourselves now, and we feel that we're so much better than everything else on this planet - most of which we couldn't survive without - that we get to decide the fate of everything around us. It may not 'harm' the fish persay, but why the hell can't we just leave the damn things alone. Why do you need to modify, mutilate, destroy, whatever, just because we think we're so superior. Just because we can do something, doesn't mean that we should. Its sick.
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SK...your post has merit until you get to this part " mutilate, destroy, ". Their would be no mutilation or destruction in his process.

Also something that seems to be getting overlooked here is the possibility that this process if successful and subsequently popular might reduce the demand for dyed fish. That would be a huge benefit. Any reduction in the demand for dyed and mutilated fish will save countless thousands of aquarium fish.
 
The mutilate and destroy part wasn't specifically referring to the glowing fish, it was referring to human nature.

I'm all for finding a way to stop dying and mutilating fish, and any animal for that matter...but I don't agree that 'modifying' them in such a manner is the solution. Its just another form of mutilation, if you ask me.
 
yeah slammer. if people are always gonna want to buy altered fish, a safe substitute to keep those folks happy and reduce interest in getting cruelly modded fish, would be a good thing.

or maybe it would force the breeders to take it to the next level. who wouldnt want to buy a brick shaped, finless, blinking discus??
 
slammer said:
SK...your post has merit until you get to this part " mutilate, destroy, ". Their would be no mutilation or destruction in his process.

Also something that seems to be getting overlooked here is the possibility that this process if successful and subsequently popular might reduce the demand for dyed fish. That would be a huge benefit. Any reduction in the demand for dyed and mutilated fish will save countless thousands of aquarium fish.
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I agree you won't stop people from buying dyed fish so if we can give them something else we can save a lot of suffering.

I will agree that in a perfect word all we would have would be pure bred.

BTW this may help http://www.mongabay.com/external/glowing_fish.htm
 
My ex goes to johns hopkins in baltimore. She does this stuff to mice all the time, I never thought about doing it to fish...Bright red Pike cichlid would be sweet. Maybe I should tell her to hook me up with a couple.
 
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