jaguar or oscar

[warmouth]

i say look online for a bigger tank and keep both...then use that tank for quarantine or grow out

Definately agree with this post......give them cover (hiding places) and some fast dither fish and make it a grow out tank.

 

[k0y0te]

YOUR TANK IS TOO SMALL FOR EITHER FISH!!

i have to disagree. i think the tank is to small for a jag for life but an oscar can live confy for life in a 75. On the average oscar are rarely bigger then 14 inch. most barely top 13. i have yet to see a 16 in oscar. i know alot of people claim to have one but yet u never see pics of them against a measuring tape. so i have to say go for the Oscar and you will be fine. Unless your planning on getting a bigger tank i get rid of the jag

i have an oscar in a 75 with no problems. Just remeber oscars are messy you need 10x the turn over for hob filter and 5x turn over for canistor filters to keep you nitrates from getting crazy out of hand

 

[Gasha]

shane, sorry for all this bickering... hope you got your answers... this wasn't ment to become ethical or anything but that kid with the eel in his avitar started that questioning to me so i had to respond.... good luck with your fish tank, and i hope your new fish grows on you like ours have, you will know when the time comes if he needs a bigger home, just like i have for my fish... this is good site with knowledgeable people...

now that you are keeping your oscar, you should go check out some of the oscar forums online and also their are a lot of websites dedicated to your fish....their is a really big following if you haven't yet noticed... Good luck!

koyote... im going to try to go down to the LFS (over weekend) i was talking about with the oscars in with the pacus and see if the owner will let me measure.. they aren't for sale, so they should still be there, i'll check it out and make a new thread with pics...

 

[k0y0te]

cool

 

[honda237]

shane, sorry for all this bickering... hope you got your answers... this wasn't ment to become ethical or anything but that kid with the eel in his avitar started that questioning to me so i had to respond.... good luck with your fish tank, and i hope your new fish grows on you like ours have, you will know when the time comes if he needs a bigger home, just like i have for my fish... this is good site with knowledgeable people...

now that you are keeping your oscar, you should go check out some of the oscar forums online and also their are a lot of websites dedicated to your fish....their is a really big following if you haven't yet noticed... Good luck!

koyote... im going to try to go down to the LFS (over weekend) i was talking about with the oscars in with the pacus and see if the owner will let me measure.. they aren't for sale, so they should still be there, i'll check it out and make a new thread with pics...

i said 75g just considering everyone wants to keep them in bare minimum, which is a lot better than a 55g. now that being said, it would be hard keeping water conditions perfect, i would run atleast a sump and do twice a week water changes. I keep my O in a 125g with a jack dempsey, a mayan, and a pleco, i do once a week water change and watch his feeding (feed smaller amounts at a time, so he doesn't feel the need to eat it all at one time and blow it out his gills), and vary his diet with pellets, worms, wax worms and frozen homeade food.

 

[Gasha]

^^^^^^ Your 7" pleco will out grow that 75g. What a scumbag to keep a full grown pleco in a 75g tank. I will agree, keeping a 14" O in a 75g isn't optimum living standards, but unless you go grab part of Peru and set it up in your back yard you'll never achieve proper living standards. Seriously, all of your comments were unnecessary and you should be the one who gets banned.

^^ i never even said what type of pleco i had... shows what type of person you are... quick to jump ship huh?

 

[jclyde13]

lmao i should start a new thread with your quote... Go ahead, you have my consent. Do it and see what kind of responses you get...

i hope you don't keep 14" fish in 75 gallons... Actually I don't even own a 75 gallon, I have a 220 gallon and two small tanks (3.5 and 2 gallons).

you probably think its also ok to let them live in a bare tank.... Yes, actually I do.

lmao my texas cichlid is 8" and my pleco 7" and the 75 is all ready too small for her Unless you have 14 inches of gravel in that tank, that statement is just plain stupid.

anyways... you keep a 14" fish in a 75 gallon and all i got to say is Again, where are you getting that I even have a 75 gallon? And if you want to ban everyone who does have 14+" fish in 75 gallon tanks, then all I have to say is good luck with that...

i have experiance with oscars.. it's called i look at them and walk away...lol seriously though 2 of my boys think they are so cool and had them for years... one of them stopped with fish but the other still has a tank... he actually has a decent looking oscar right now too.... im over his house all the time(hes my boy) i have observed these fish for 13 years now... Seriously? You think that looking at a fish counts as experience? In that case, I have over a decade of experience with arapaimas.

You obviously have no experience with oscars, so quit spewing out false information about them.

 

[balton777]

i have experiance with oscars.. it's called i look at them and walk away

Seriously? You think that looking at a fish counts as experience? In that case, I have over a decade of experience with arapaimas.

As funny as that is, this thread is totally derailed now.


OP, plain and simple, if you can only keep one of the two, keep the Oscar and sell the Jag to your lfs. I think you got that point about two pages back though.

 

[fishpro]

75 is plenty for that list that jag wont over a foot long for like almost a year same with the oscar and mix up ur decorations so that they dont fight over territory

 

[Gasha]

As funny as that is, this thread is totally derailed now.


OP, plain and simple, if you can only keep one of the two, keep the Oscar and sell the Jag to your lfs. I think you got that point about two pages back though.

if you read all the other posts my two buddy's love them and had them there whole life... while we where growing up... every problem they had i was there for and all the yo look what my oscar is doing... i was there for... and i do walk away when i see them in the masses at petco..... and
HERE IS WHY I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT POINT YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE ABOUT THIS FISH
****even if i didn't have experiences from my friends(one of them like a brother i basically lived at his house seeing the fish everyday...) It doesn't take a bloody rocket scientist to see that they are like rats of the fish world... (every petco and even some of the LFS carry them like they carry feeders... if you argue this..well, you just like to argue...)*****

the buddy i was talking about that still has one (bout 9" now maybe more) wants to give it away to me because after all these years he has finally smartened up.....(i aint taking the ugly thing!..actually i'm picking up a jaguar this week...lol big one!) anyways i'll be holding him in my spare 75 for him(he's anxious to get him out and have other cichlids, it's clean and healthy)

with that said anyone near South Eastern MA or RI(bristol county) area looking to adopt it.. i definitely aint keeping it.... i have a lot of studying this week so PM me if your interested and i'll get pics soon.