James Cameron claims he's found Christ's tomb

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where did they get JESUS dna to compare with the bodies in the tombs?


sorry if this question was already asked or answered in another article....
 
XRAYZ;721828; said:
where did they get JESUS dna to compare with the bodies in the tombs?


sorry if this question was already asked or answered in another article....

They don't have any DNA to cross reference it with, wether you are a Christian or an Atheist that's a FACT that has to be remembered. What they are banking on is what they believe is different DNA from the tomb they think is Jesus's and DNA from what they believe is Mary Magdelene's tomb. They are hoping to show that this means that they were married, had a son (who they also believe is buried there, but did not test for DNA), and that inevitably this means that Jesus didn't rise from the dead. I agree with most on here who are urging Christians to watch the documentary and look at the "facts", but I also will urge those non-belivers to look at facts that aren't thrown in front of them by big name directors, big name actors, and so-on. Is this a coincidence that this is surfacing right around the Catholic Lenten season? Also remember that the people who made this documentary are not theologians. And I am happy to admit that they do not say that they are. The importance of this statement is that there are many holes in this theory, that give it little to stand on as far as "destroying the Christian Faith". One example is that even if they could prove that these bones are Jesus's, which they SCIENTIFICALLY could NEVER prove, there are a lot of Christians who's Faith wouldn't be shaken by this, because they don't belive that Jesus's physical body ever rose from the dead, they believe His spirit did. All I'm trying to say is that this documentary has a peculiar amount of "coincidences" such as timing, lack of evidence, lack of specific experiments, lack of true, non biased view of history, and so on. I just want to point out how ironic it is that non-belivers are always quick to bash Christians for "forcing" their views on them, yet so readily accept whatever the mainstream media pushes into their living room every night.
 
hamato_yoshii;721911; said:
I just want to point out how ironic it is that non-belivers are always quick to bash Christians for "forcing" their views on them, yet so readily accept whatever the mainstream media pushes into their living room every night.

don't worry, remember our lord is a jealous God? non-believers and their children will be punished, to the third and the fourth generation.

It's Christians' duty to help our Lord to punish the liberals non-believers that are running mainstream media.

ready to help?
 
repair;720843; said:
See again you have missed the point. The example had nothing to do with religion except that it helped me understand how people can be blinded to the good things that GOD offers.

The point was it was like turning on the light in a dark room, when this happens things that you didn't see before now become clear and you are able to see and understand.

I can prove by scientific methods that a bumble bee can not fly by it does.


Just for giggles what kind of work do you do?

I am a machinist/fabricator.
And i do not mean to offend you, i just state my opinions like everyone else.
 
I'm just taking all this for what it is. If it does in fact turn out to be his then cool. If not then that's just fine by me. It would be nice, but you can't expect something to happen 2k years ago and still have the facts straight.
 
I have no idea how anyone can believe in jesus as our creator these days, i'm sure a man by the name of jesus existed a long time ago but he was no different to you and i.... he probably did say profound things though lol (watch the family guy movie, they describe his "powers" the best :ROFL: )

Did god also create the other intelligent life forms living in our universe?

Having said that, i believe there is something after death but i'm not sure what that is yet... guess i'll have to wait. It isn't heaven or hell though...

Believing in jesus "just in case" he is real, isn't a pass into heaven i'm afraid...
 
One other thing that annoys me (and please correct me if i'm incorrect)

Assuming for a minute jesus is our creator...

Rapists, murderers ets can start to believe and ask for forgiveness and go to heaven? true or false?

I would never ever even think of hurting another person like that and because i don't beleive i will go to hell? true or false?

Repair, believing in god doesn't make you a better person... how many priests have been convicted of having sex with boys?

You make yourself a better person not god.
 
Aussienative;722156; said:
I have no idea how anyone can believe in jesus as our creator these days,

It never says he is the "creator" Infact by what is said to be Jesus own words I must now go to my FATHER :) The Creator.

Also John 3:16 The most famous scripture in the world still to this day..

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Not god gave himself as the creator.. God gave his only Begotten son:) That through His SON and belief in, we have everlasting life.. And that only through HIS SON Jesus is that possible.

As for your other questions I would suggest you read revelations as it is better explanitory than I could do for you :) And then you can come to your own conclusion as to whats going to happen to who.. AND WHY the world is the way it is today.. It is all in line with Gods will and Plan and is coming to pass as revealed in the bible. Personal opinion of course :)

Revelations takes a couple hours to read at most..
 
Reading through how religion is discussed on public forums like this one is very wearisome. Most people automatically associate religion with the popular media rendering that is often toward the right extreme, bearing little or no resemblence to the daily life and practice of the faith community. If you want to base your view on this country based on what you read on the front pages of local newspapers or primetv, you won't find it being parallelled with the reality you see in your family, workplaces, schools, neighborhoods, etc... Why can't you see the same effect the media or popular belief is playing on public's perception of the religious?

Perhaps those in the West automatically blame the church for its share of political power in much of its tained history in Europe. However, human evil has been a fact that pervades through all cultures and societies of various belief system (should it be theistic or atheistic). For me, human atrocities are consequences of misuderstanding of and abuse of power rather than that of religious concepts. If you still would like to blame religions for all the problems in the world, look at what happened in the atheist communist soviet union or North Korea at present. Should it be religion or politics, when they become tools of the priviledged few or are used to maintain the status quo of the powerful, human beings are capable of some immense evil. Isn't this what we have seen all along? Shouldn't we think of religion as a powerful tool that fell under wrong hands?
 
danzig;720801; said:
One more thing, there has been numerous scientific studies on prayer (using practising members) throughout history to this day and every single one of them dismissed prayer as nothing more than a wish.

Several things I'd like to challenge here:

1. What do you mean by prayer? Is prayer only consist of bringing "wishlist" to God? For me prayer is consist of thanksgiving, communing with God, aligning my thoughts with that of God, prayer for transformation of the self, petition for transformation of the world and people around me, as well as personal petitions about general well-being.

2. Have you met people or who received answer and experienced the power of prayer? What do you consider an "anwered prayer"?

3. Is scientific method really a right apparatus to study religious experiences such as prayer? I'm not too sure what such studies on tracing chemical activities, drawing statistical information on the correlation between prayer topics and outcome, or study of physiological brain difference between religious and irreligious really answers significant questions about prayer. It may be able to give quantiative, materialst observation of prayer but what it'll lack qualitative, emotional, and spiritual statement about prayer.

4. I know of top notch scientists from major universities who are active practioners of their faith traditions. Would they dismiss prayer as you do in the name of science?
 
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