James Cameron claims he's found Christ's tomb

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repair;720527; said:
You know if there is no GOD then my living for something phoney didn't hurt anyone and it makes me a better person..... but if there is a GOD what hope does the person that lives like there is no GOD have at the end of their life.

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well put. Nobody needs to put down religion. I don't agree with a lot of the religious beliefs put forth by my church, catholic, but oh well, there's nothing i can do about that. I still believe in God, and that's good enough for me. To each their own.

But that dude i quoted above, he's really really delusional. Not you repair. The other guy. The one about people going to hell or whatever it was.
 
AquataHolic420;720530; said:
How the hell are you any better then anyone else?? i think this whole topic and your faith just helpsyou sleep better.

You have missed the point.

( when I was young I heard the song "if I said you had a beatiful body would you hold it against me". Now I thought why would someone be mad if you said that they were beautiful? One day it was like a light turnned on and I realized that he wanted her to hold her body against him.)

This how I think about people that can hear GODs word and not see the truth in it.

I don't think I'm better then anyone, I believe it makes me a better me, a kinder person and better husband and father and yes it helps me sleep better. Isn't that what a good thing does?
 
What i have said is my own personal view. I do not see religion as a "bad" thing for most people. If you can get guidance or can better yourself through a religion then thats great. If you can become a better person by following the words of a bible or any other religious scripts, all the power to you.
Religion is a major cause of war and violence, ableit they are religious extremists, the cause is for their god. What god demands millions of people die (mostly innocent) because they follow a different faith?
Repair, i have read the bible and many other religious books, have you?. I was raised catholic. You cant put me down because i dont need religion as guidance to be a wholesome, kind hearted person. I am no better than you, or anyone else of any other religion. But i dont condemn anyone because of their beliefs and certainly dont "damn people to hell" who dont agree with my beliefs. Hypothetically if you were born as a muslim in say afganistan, you would belive mulsim religion much like you belive your own. Does that make you right? Only believing what you are used to or familiar with, and denying everyhting else is narrowminded and ignorant. While i do not necessarily belive in a god, i do not doubt there is one or more. I belive majority of religions were founded as a "guide" to conform people to a certain lifestyle.
And one again yes, the bible is hatefilled sexist jibberish who commands millions upon millions of innocent people be slain in your gods name. It does not say to peacefully seperate *** people, it says to slay them, it says to slay disobedient wives and children. it repeatedly says to slay the generations of innocent people to pay for the sins of one family member.
And if you sin, you get repentance. which is an im sorry, and its all ok. go sin some more and come back for confession and youll be ok. So basically, if you join my gang (religion) and break a rule, god will forgive you, but if your not in our gang you should be stoned to death, not because they arent good people, but because they arent in the same gang (religion) as us.
Like i said, if someone came to you today with 2 rocks with laws written on them, and he claimed them to be gods laws, would you believe him?
If you were raised in a small tribe in africa, lived your whole life as a good, giving human being, would you still go to hell cuz you arent catholic? But you wouldnt know anything about catholic religion because you werent exposed to it. And the bible says anyone who doesnt believe in him is bound for eternal damnation. IMO your god sounds alot like hitler.
 
repair;720611; said:
You have missed the point.

( when I was young I heard the song "if I said you had a beatiful body would you hold it against me". Now I thought why would someone be mad if you said that they were beautiful? One day it was like a light turnned on and I realized that he wanted her to hold her body against him.)

This how I think about people that can hear GODs word and not see the truth in it.

I don't think I'm better then anyone, I believe it makes me a better me, a kinder person and better husband and father and yes it helps me sleep better. Isn't that what a good thing does?

Sorry to burst your religious awakening bubble, but "If i said you had a beautiful body, would you hold it against me" hasn othing to do with god.
its a saying that has been around forever. it means if i tell you that you have a beautiful body, would you hold it against me (physically).
One more thing, there has been numerous scientific studies on prayer (using practising members) throughout history to this day and every single one of them dismissed prayer as nothing more than a wish.
 
I don't think that you know my GOD.

I don't know where is says to slay the ***s. When the ***s surounded the home of Lot and demanded that they give them the angels that were traveling as men GOD did not kill them he only blinded them.

I'm glad to see that you are able to live a fulfilling life without a GOD to help you.
 
repair;720817; said:
I don't think that you know my GOD.

I don't know where is says to slay the ***s. When the ***s surounded the home of Lot and demanded that they give them the angels that were traveling as men GOD did not kill them he only blinded them.

I'm glad to see that you are able to live a fulfilling life without a GOD to help you.

Know when to shake the dust of that city off your sandals repair... [SIZE=-1]
1 Corinthians 1:18 [/SIZE]
 
danzig;720801; said:
Sorry to burst your religious awakening bubble, but "If i said you had a beautiful body, would you hold it against me" hasn othing to do with god.
its a saying that has been around forever. it means if i tell you that you have a beautiful body, would you hold it against me (physically).
One more thing, there has been numerous scientific studies on prayer (using practising members) throughout history to this day and every single one of them dismissed prayer as nothing more than a wish.


See again you have missed the point. The example had nothing to do with religion except that it helped me understand how people can be blinded to the good things that GOD offers.

The point was it was like turning on the light in a dark room, when this happens things that you didn't see before now become clear and you are able to see and understand.

I can prove by scientific methods that a bumble bee can not fly by it does.


Just for giggles what kind of work do you do?
 
repair;720848; said:
You are right..... thanks

No need to thank, just putting the brethren in remembrance.
Know too, don't stop! It is our "job", just know when it becomes counter-productive to our calling.

I love a good debate as much as anyone, but when it becomes name-calling and moronic arguments just for the sake of arguing, it's no longer fun. I've always loved combative physical fighting too, but neither of those have a place in the dissemination of the Gospel. Our job is to share the Good News and teach those that want to learn more. If it's rejected, let the seed be eaten by the birds. It's up to the Lord God to grant the increase.
In the end, they won't be answering to US...

Chuck
 
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