Jihad on Americans

[Filthy Sanchez]

All I can say is I am suprised anyone on this planet understands the word peace.

Wait a minute look at you, you keep africans I mean these people oh wait you mean fish,.......uh nevermind.

 

[Vitaliy]

Yep, kept troops there for sometime, and sent people to prison for questioning it.


First Published: August 19, 1919 in The Revolutionary Age
Transcribed: Sally Ryan January, 2001


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FOR the past year or so many people have been calling Woodrow Wilson a hypocrite. Mollie Steimer got fifteen years for doing it; Oswald Garrison Villard hasn’t been arrested yet. The defenders of the President still repeat, after every new atrocious act of his, that he just doesn’t know.

The Soviet Government of Hungary has fallen, and the capitalist press is exulting over the fact that this catastrophe is due chiefly “to the pressure of Captain Thomas Gregory, American food controller in Hungary.” In other words, the United States Government starved the Hungarian People’s Government to death,and that by direct order of the President of the United States. Can Wilson’s friends still tell us that he doesn’t know?

They will have very little to say after the latest Presidential pronunciamento—the statement about American troops in Siberia, and why they must be kept there. It contains a number of misstatements of fact which, if they had been uttered by anybody else, would be called lies, and treated as lies should be. However, having been emitted by the Great White Father, the people of the United States will probably suppress their uneasy doubts, the stock market will react favorably, and President Wilson will continue to prosecute his private war against the Russian people.

The President’s statement alleges the following reasons for sending American troops to Siberia and keeping them there:

1. To save the Czecho-Slovak armies from “destruction by hostile armies apparently organized by and often largely composed of enemy prisoners of war.”

2. “To steady any efforts of the Russians at self-defense, or the establishment of law and order, in which they might be willing to accept assistance.”

3. To protect Mr. John F Stevens and a corps of American Engineers who are operating the Siberian Railroads under an agreement with Japan, for the purpose of:

a. Feeding, clothing and supplying the people of Russia and Siberia.

b. “The forces of Admiral Kolchak are entirely dependent on these railways.”

4. “From these observations it will be seen that the purpose of the continuance of American troops in Siberia is that we, with the concurrence of the great allied powers, may keep open a necessary artery of trade..."

The President evidently did not take the trouble to read the Acting Secretary of Crate’s announcement of Intervention in Russia, on August 5th, 1918; in that extraordinary document mention was made, not of “saving the Czecho-Slovaks from destruction,” but of protecting the rear of the westward-moving Czecho-Slovaks. As for the “armies...organized by enemy prisoners of war,” that hoary myth was exploded by members of the British and American Military Missions, who journeyed through Siberia at the request of the Soviet Government, and reported to their Governments that these legendary “armies of enemy prisoners” did not exist.

We refuse to believe that the President is still ignorant of the kind of Russians who are making “efforts at the establishment of law and order,” or of the kind of “law and order” they want to establish. The corrupt adventurer Horvath, the mercenary Semenov, the bloodyhanded Kolchak and the renegade Denikin are the sort of Russians whose “efforts” American troops are supporting. There was the shadow of an argument to be advanced while Messrs. Avksentiev, Zenzinov & Co maintained their soap-bubble “Government” at Omsk; although these shameless politicians represented no one in Russia except themselves, still they upheld the tradition of capitalist “democracy.” But Kolchak and Denikin don’t bother with childish make-believes such as Constituent Assemblies; they stand frankly for a restoration of a Czardom in Moscow, and in furtherance of this end they do not hesitate to butcher men, women and children, to suppress every shadow of popular organization—not only labor unions and political parties, but even cooperative societies, zemstvos, and schools. In their hands the grain withheld from the starving masses of Central Russia is made into vodka, with which to stupefy the peasants. Their armies are composed of former Czarist officers, Chinese and Japanese mercenaries, the scum of eastern Asia. They slaughter, rob, rape; they torture women and children, starve whole populations; it is treason to criticize them, punishable with death. They are selling the Russian land, mines and forests to foreigners. The Imperial ensign, surmounted by the twin black eagles of the Romanovs, has been hoisted an the quay at Vladivostok, in the presence of a guard of "honor” of Allied troops.

This is the kind of “effort at self-defense” that American troops are “steadying.” This is the “law and order” they are endeavoring to “restore.” Woodrow Wilson knows it. He knows it. He dares not ask Congress to sanction this expedition in support of brigandage, nor has Congress ever declared war on Russia.

There is much in the papers lately about American soldiers in Siberia being killed by “Bolsheviki.” It is considered a dastardly thing for a people to defend themselves against invaders of their country—even though these invaders be Americans, who as everybody knows, gave a “solemn and public promise” not to interfere in Russian politics.

The President has the nerve to repeat this promise. He says, “The instructions to General Graves direct him not to interfere in Russian affairs, but to support Mr. Stevens whenever necessary.” Well, what then? Apparently Mr. Stevens’ purpose is to keep the Siberian Railways running. Why? A few paragraphs on the President says. “The forces of Admiral Kolchak are entirely dependent upon these railways.”

Don’t interfere into Russian affairs, but help Admiral Kolchak overthrow the Soviet Government!

Let us use plain words about these matters. The American troops sent to Siberia by Woodrow Wilson, and kept there by him alone, were dispatched to help overthrow the Government set up by the Russian people of their own free will, and are engaged in supporting tyranny against human liberty. In every contact Woodrow Wilson has had with the world, his decision has lain with that of the enemies of freedom and real democracy—in Hungary, Egypt, Germany, Shantung—and to that course he has pledged this nation.

We come now to the very important detail concerning Mr. John F. Stevens, whose activities (running six trains a day on the Chinese Eastern and Trans-Baikal Railways, and other democratic triumphs) fill the body of the President’s statement.

The State Department’s announcement of Intervention, as I recall it, doesn’t say a word about Mr. Stevens. At that time the United States Government was “saving” the Czecho-Slovaks, and combatting fearful hosts of unarmed German prisoners. Mr. Stevens, then, must be explained, and the President does it. Only he doesn’t tell all the facts. After relating the story of how Mr. Stevens and the Railway Commission went to Russia at the request of the Kerensky Government, and worked with that Government, the President continues: “Owing to the Bolshevist uprising, and the general chaotic conditions, neither Mr. Stevens nor the Russian Railway Service Corps was able to begin work in Siberia until March, 1918.”

He skips a very important episode—an episode of which he knows. He skips this episode because it would spoil his little explanation to the Senate. It happens, however, to be the fact that the American Railway Mission, and Mr. Stevens, could have begun work in Siberia and in Russia—long before March 1918, if they had really wanted to help the Russians and oppose the Germans.

When the Bolshevik uprising took place, Mr. Stevens and his Railway Corps fled to Japan, and sat there, in the best hotels, hobnobbing with the Allied and Japanese Imperialists.

While the Brest-Litovsk negotiations were going on, the Soviet Government asked the American Government to send the Railway Mission into Russia. It promised to appoint Mr. Stevens, or anyone else designated, to be Assistant Commissar of Ways and Communications, with complete authority over half the transportation lines of all Russia. The American Railway Mission was to have charge of removing all guns, ammunition and supplies from the front to where the Germans wouldn’t get them, and oversee the entire work of the Russian railways.

But the American Government was nor interested, evidently, in saving munitions from the Germans; it was more interested in upsetting the Soviet Government. So Mr. Stevens was ordered to remain in Japan until some reactionary figurehead could be found in Siberia to undertake the Holy War against Socialist Russia. What a dirty story!

The core of the whole miserable excuse is contained in the following clause:

“The situation of the people of Siberia, meantime, is that they have no shoes or warm clothing; they are pleading for agricultural machinery and for many of the simpler articles of commerce, etc.”

This, while the United States Government cooperates with the Allies in maintaining a merciless blockade against Soviet Russia, dooming millions of people to starvation, exposure and disease because they dare to set up the kind of government they want to live under!

“All elements of the population in Siberia look to the United States for assistance,” says the President. “This assistance cannot be given to the population of Siberia, and ultimately to Russia, if the purpose entertained tor two years to restore railway traffic is abandoned... .”

God help Russia from being assisted by President Wilson! Let him call off his private war, and call home the American boys he has sent to Siberia to shoot and be shot at upon pretexts which are obviously insincere.

Your terminology is way off. The word invade means to enter by force and conquer!

What happened was in 1917 the Russian government has asked the United States to help maintain the Trans-Siberian railway. This was the time of the Russian Civil War and all British, France, and even Canada were involved in the political process.

Tsar Nicholas the second stepped down and the provisional democratic government was formed in Russia, which is when Woodrow Wilson sent troops to help against the Central Powers (Germans, Austria-Hungary, and Ottoman Empire). Basically the US was going to help out while the Russian provisional government led by Alexander Kerensky was fighting the Germans on the Eastern Front and not only that but US was supporting them economically. What you have there is a silly, and uneducated, conspiracy article. This stuff is very well documented and no one is hiding it. This whole period is called allied intervention in the Russian civil war.

 

[DanDanUK]

Threads like these always make me nervous as sometimes they can get out of hand then we as mods have to close them just remember that peeps!

 

[Filthy Sanchez]

Your terminology is way off. The word invade means to enter by force and conquer!

What happened was in 1917 the Russian government has asked the United States to help maintain the Trans-Siberian railway. This was the time of the Russian Civil War and all British, France, and even Canada were involved in the political process.

Tsar Nicholas the second stepped down and the provisional democratic government was formed in Russia, which is when Woodrow Wilson sent troops to help against the Central Powers (Germans, Austria-Hungary, and Ottoman Empire). Basically the US was going to help out while the Russian provisional government led by Alexander Kerensky was fighting the Germans on the Eastern Front and not only that but US was supporting them economically. What you have there is a silly, and uneducated, conspiracy article. This stuff is very well documented and no one is hiding it. This whole period is called allied intervention in the Russian civil war.

Silly little conspiracy article sorry about that Ill try to keep my crazy conspiracy articles to myself from now on. No nobody is hiding it, and you're correct termonology was off, it was not so pure of heart though. What we were their to do, and what we did are not always the same. I sincerely apologize though and will make sure to examine my words very very carefully next time so I won't be given anymore and dismissed because of my syntax.

 

[Ash]

Wait a minute look at you, you keep africans I mean these people oh wait you mean fish,.......uh nevermind.

Yah cuse you know how I stuff them all up in my 30gal... lol of course they be fish!! =)

 

[guppy]

Your terminology is way off. The word invade means to enter by force and conquer!

What happened was in 1917 the Russian government has asked the United States to help maintain the Trans-Siberian railway. This was the time of the Russian Civil War and all British, France, and even Canada were involved in the political process.

Tsar Nicholas the second stepped down and the provisional democratic government was formed in Russia, which is when Woodrow Wilson sent troops to help against the Central Powers (Germans, Austria-Hungary, and Ottoman Empire). Basically the US was going to help out while the Russian provisional government led by Alexander Kerensky was fighting the Germans on the Eastern Front and not only that but US was supporting them economically. What you have there is a silly, and uneducated, conspiracy article. This stuff is very well documented and no one is hiding it. This whole period is called allied intervention in the Russian civil war.

It should be remembered that this was a time of extreme flux and that inflamatory rhetoric was the norm and wildly differing views of the same actions were being bandied about by several factions. The Russian Tsarist government was falling, a people's democracy was being co-opted by a fledgling corruption of communism, Nationalist states were eyeing the resources of the Russias, social Darwinism was all the rage amongst the wealthier capatilists who here in the USA were having heads bashed in at the first hint of Boslevikism. Most of the industrialised world was at war, and worldwide the panic of the Spanish Influenza was rearing it gore slimed head, going on to kill at least 40 million people in less than three years.
If you listened to the russian royalists the American forces were inadequate tokens, the moderates thought we were an unforetunate occurrance, the Stalinists said we where invading lackeys of the capitalist warmongers. The Germans thought we were in the way. And the american mopopolists thought they should steal everything in sight and get the taxpayers to pay for it and the poor to die for it.
Interesting times.

 

[Vitaliy]

Silly little conspiracy article sorry about that Ill try to keep my crazy conspiracy articles to myself from now on. No nobody is hiding it, and you're correct termonology was off, it was not so pure of heart though. What we were their to do, and what we did are not always the same. I sincerely apologize though and will make sure to examine my words very very carefully next time so I won't be given anymore and dismissed because of my syntax.

Do not get me wrong, I am not trying to put you down but the article is simply incorrect. I mean at that point Wilson did not even want to do anything about the crisis what so ever, the only way he acted was after the Allied forces and a great deal of pressure from British did the United States sent some troops in (I said some because Europeans had more troops/involvement in the whole process), I believe even the US general disagreed and did not want to do it but Wilson went ahead with it anyway.

Perhaps the whole situation was confusing because of the timeline when the article was posted, while all of this was taking place but at this point this is very heavily documented on both sides.

I did not dismiss the article you posted because of your syntax, I told you that your terminology was not correct and I told you why the article was incorrect.

 

[Filthy Sanchez]

Do not get me wrong, I am not trying to put you down but the article is simply incorrect. I mean at that point Wilson did not even want to do anything about the crisis what so ever, the only way he acted was after the Allied forces and a great deal of pressure from British did the United States sent some troops in (I said some because Europeans had more troops/involvement in the whole process), I believe even the US general disagreed and did not want to do it but Wilson went ahead with it anyway.

Perhaps the whole situation was confusing because of the timeline when the article was posted, while all of this was taking place but at this point this is very heavily documented on both sides.

I did not dismiss the article you posted because of your syntax, I told you that your terminology was not correct and I told you why the article was incorrect.

All good, I believe Woodrow Wilson though used America's military more than almost any other president in history and his conflicts in Central America were many. I'm not picking on Wilson or any particular president, and just feel that too many people deny the fact that our government does terrible things in the world, I don't buy Bush's claim that people attacked us because they hate freedom. As far as history goes actual historical documents are how it should be taught. I mean not textbook (textbooks seem to be well full of sh*t) edited or internet edit copies of said documents, I mean the actual documents.

 

[Filthy Sanchez]

It should be remembered that this was a time of extreme flux and that inflamatory rhetoric was the norm and wildly differing views of the same actions were being bandied about by several factions. The Russian Tsarist government was falling, a people's democracy was being co-opted by a fledgling corruption of communism, Nationalist states were eyeing the resources of the Russias, social Darwinism was all the rage amongst the wealthier capatilists who here in the USA were having heads bashed in at the first hint of Boslevikism. Most of the industrialised world was at war, and worldwide the panic of the Spanish Influenza was rearing it gore slimed head, going on to kill at least 40 million people in less than three years.
If you listened to the russian royalists the American forces were inadequate tokens, the moderates thought we were an unforetunate occurrance, the Stalinists said we where invading lackeys of the capitalist warmongers. The Germans thought we were in the way. And the american mopopolists thought they should steal everything in sight and get the taxpayers to pay for it and the poor to die for it.
Interesting times.

..and the domestication of the dog continued unabaded.

 

[suckerfish]

I want 70 virgins... AALLLLAAAAAH AKBAR. if we look back, you could blame the british empire for most of the conflicts today and of the past. israel, kashmir, iran, iraq, etc...... i think everbody is missing the point on iraq. bush senior should of gone to bagdad in 91, he didn't because of the hell hole that is happening now. .

iraq laughed at un sanctions all the while france, germany, russia, china are making $ under the table, why do you think they didn't want this war---they making too much $ from sanctions. CLITton----biggest wuss we've ever had as president. embassy bombings, uss cole, momar trying to kill bush senior, what did the perjuring puss do, couple of missile in a RX factory. so to sum it up.IMO we went to war to make the UN a place with backbone, otherwise i think we would have/should have left the UN.

now, where's all the racial jokes, an yes, i am of english ancestory, so let's start off with what do you call a white.......... oh yea, i'm also french, german, swedish, and seminole indian, so most jokes could go my way....
all kidding aside, how bout we talk fish on mFISHk.com
p.s.
don't any of you think these regimes steer anger at us to save thier own asses? these cartoons are a perfect example, we didn't creat them and only one paper republished then, WITH an apology, but low and behold the muslim world is burning usa flags and protesting our embassies. now i don't think that many people are that stupid----just pissed at thier enviroments, goverments, etc.. and who better to steer anger at than the BIG WHITE DEVIL.
who knows, maybe they are just that dumb?
AND YES I LOVE BUSH. not the president,lol
thank god jon kerry didn't win..we'd be WIPED OFF THE MAP by now.
love you all.