Joe Paterno and Penn State president fired!

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This is messed up.

Thats all I really have to say.

Its a shame that JoePa goes out this way, even though I think his actual coaching days were over ten years ago. Possibly more.
 
I can kind of agree with this... he was pretty old to still be coaching.

From what I understand, he hasn't been functioning as a head coach for 10-15 years now; he's mainly just sat up in the booth and given directions as need be (and he wanted to avoid breaking the other hip). The biggest reason for them keeping him is recruitment; he was pretty much the face of Penn State which is why he took the bulk of the media's misguided fury.
 
rabble rabble rabble, child molester, rabble rabble rabble. Cover up and such. I don't see how any of this behavior is acceptable. Anything to do with child molesting should be jail time with general population and excusable abuse within the system. I have no respect for these people, they should meet their own faith.
 
i feel terrible for the victims and almost as bad that joe pa had to be the fall guy because of the public backlash but let's be honest, joe pa running that program is like weekend at bernie's, they're just dragging a dead body around and pretending he's still coaching. lol

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He's no fall guy! He enabled and allow the child molestations to flourish for many years after it was reported to him and covered it up by doing the legal minimum in that parts of the woods.

If that is not criminal negligence, it should be. No ifs or buts about it!
 
eh, the whole university did that, NOT just joe pa. he still was the fall guy. he wasn't the eye witness, wasn't the person who commited the act, wasn't the person who was in charge of the program etc etc. don't get me wrong, he obviously does not get it and shouldve done everything in his power to make sure that man had gone to jail, but that mean everyone else around him that knew should be held accountable too

i'm with the lone protester that showed up yesterday and was protesting the game even being played. shut the uni down!

STATE COLLEGE, Pa. -- With a thick piece of black duct tape covering the Penn State logo on his baseball cap and a pair of signs criticizing the university, Jon Matko knew he wasn’t going to make many friends at Beaver Stadium on Saturday. But he didn’t care.

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The 2000 Penn State graduate and father of a 4-year-old boy said he felt he had to do something to remind Nittany Lions fans about the victims in the school’s sexual abuse scandal. So while kids posed for pictures next to the Joe Paterno statue and others did the “We Are” chant before Saturday’s game, Matko stood on a street just outside the stadium quietly holding his signs and accepting the abuse that came with it.

Read one: The kids are what this is all about. Not wins or losses. Put the kids first. Don’t be fooled. They all knew. Tom Bradley and all must go.

“When I think of that moment in that shower, I feel rage,” Matko said. “All week I felt I had to do something. Right or wrong, agree or disagree, I had to be here for those kids. I can’t stop thinking about those kids.”

Matko, who lives in Pittsburgh, thought the university should have canceled the game and the rest of the season. He knows the importance of the games to university revenue and how canceling wouldn’t be fair to the players who had nothing to do with the scandal, but he said he felt Saturday was too soon to play.

“It’s the right thing,” he said. “It’s not about Joe. It’s about the kids.”

Matko’s other sign featured the famous Albert Einstein quote: “The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don’t do anything about it.”

When he arrived at Beaver Stadium on Saturday morning, Matko was shocked to find himself alone. He thought he would show up at Beaver Stadium and join other protestors. But he couldn’t find any.

“It’s shocking that I’m the only one here,” he said. “It’s shocking and disturbing.”

But a few feet away, a group of women passed out bookmarks that outlined telltale signs to look for indicating that a child may have been abused, as well as phone numbers for the national and Pennsylvania child abuse hotlines.

Matko, for the most part, was ignored. A few fans offered a colorful word or two of "venom," as he called it. But that was about it.

"I know these people better than they know themselves," he said. " I used to be one of them. I was brainwashed, too. Ten years ago I probably would have thought somebody holding a sign like this was a fool. But I’ve grown up. I have a family now. I don’t subscribe to this any longer. Instead, I think it's important to stand up for what you believe. And I believe this university needs to start doing the right thing."
 
eh, the whole university did that, NOT just joe pa. he still was the fall guy. he wasn't the eye witness, wasn't the person who commited the act, wasn't the person who was in charge of the program etc etc. don't get me wrong, he obviously does not get it and shouldve done everything in his power to make sure that man had gone to jail, but that mean everyone else around him that knew should be held accountable too

Exactly.

Sandusky was retired from the University by the time that Paterno found out about what he'd been doing to kids; from what I understand, Paterno wasn't the one who authorized locker room access to Sandusky after his retirement anyway. The fact of the matter remains that Paterno was made aware of the possibility of one of these incidents occurring in the training facilities; he was not a firsthand witness, and the known firsthand witnesses have had zero punishment levied on them which is highly unfair and probably illegal since I'm fairly sure that there are laws regarding witnessing child molestation. It also should be noted that the one guy Paterno told was the police commissioner at the time, so the whole "he didn't tell the police" point is moot. Only one more incident happened after Paterno was told, it occurred off of University property. The incidents involving the other eight or nine victims all occurred prior to Paterno's knowledge of Sandusky's pedophilia.

If you want to start pointing the finger at someone, then blame the District Attorney, investigators, and parents from the first time that Sandusky was found out; the problem remains that said DA is probably dead (has been missing since 2005, declared dead in July), so that's not going any where. There's no better example of dropping the ball than what they did: They had a confession and all yet did not charge him with anything. This whole part of the scandal was never publicly announced from my understanding, so odds are that no one else knew besides those who were directly involved.
 
i think you're one of the few people who took the time to wait for the details to come out and read between the lines, the media has done a great job of making it seem like joe pa knew way back in 98 when the shower incident witnessed by McQueary didnt happen until 2002 and Jerry Sandusky retired in 1999. maybe joe pa (who's old as dirt at the time) didn't fly off the handles and raise hell but he did SOMETHING. alot more then other people who are more directly involved
 
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