killing asian arowanas???

[Zoodiver]

I hear what you are saying. Most of the confiscated animals are chipped as part of keeping them here and record keeping/tracking. But say someone did breed them at home, you would have to insure all those offspring get chipped as well (even if they weren't sold). That means gov't agents watching over your shoulder 24/7 to check on your housing of the allowed animals and make sure you aren't supplying black market animals for others.

 

[Eupterus]

The 'desired' animals in the pet trade are the bright colored/enhanced/bred animals. These are not colored naturally found in the wild.

However they are the same species non the less.

If someone was to be returning captive bred animals to the wild, they should be the natural colors found. That means captive breding of the 'dull' fish. Pet trade won't want those colors. So a farm would not be able to serve both the pet trade and introduction into the wild.

This will be one of the eternal battles between science and hobbiests when it comes to specific speices. It's very similar to the issue coming up with South American stingrays right now. There is a line between hybrids of odd patterns for high profit vs keeping the speices lines pure for the future.

Now couldn't a farm keep both?. The sales from the colored ones could help support raising the wild colored ones for reintroduction into the wild.

 

[Yanbbrox]

It's simple and wrong at times, if something is illegal, then no matter what the masses think it's still illegal, the Asian aro is a beautiful fish but to risk the fish and yourself and some jail time not worth it in MO over something like a silver, I could get an Asian legally over here but £15 for a silver or £750 for an Asian I'd have a silver any day and be happy with it

 

[pressure_cooker]

Yanbbrox has a point.

 

[krichardson]

If somehow the Asian Aro was lifted from all banned lists the poachers in their native areas would go into overdrive collecting the wild specimens for shipment.These would be the people who arent wealthy enough to have their own farm facilities,they wont concern themselves with how many they are pulling from the rivers or lakes.They would find importers to ship them here even though they wouldnt be the colorful artificial farm raised variety.The lifting of a ban would cause such a demand here that there would be aros for just about any income level and the prices would go down eventually but the collecting of wild aros wont stop which would push them closer to extinction in the wild.I dont see why they couldnt be bred down in Florida on the private farms like they do with Africans and most other tropicals.

 

[pressure_cooker]

If somehow the Asian Aro was lifted from all banned lists the poachers in their native areas would go into overdrive collecting the wild specimens for shipment.These would be the people who arent wealthy enough to have their own farm facilities,they wont concern themselves with how many they are pulling from the rivers or lakes.They would find importers to ship them here even though they wouldnt be the colorful artificial farm raised variety.The lifting of a ban would cause such a demand here that there would be aros for just about any income level and the prices would go down eventually but the collecting of wild aros wont stop which would push them closer to extinction in the wild.I dont see why they couldnt be bred down in Florida on the private farms like they do with Africans and most other tropicals.

Asian Arowanas are probably the most difficult fish to breed, you need to have the right temp, climate and luck to make these fish breed. i think you need to have the equatorial climate to make these fish breed. The US govt should lift the ban after many years when the wild number of asian arowana are abundant once again.

 

[David R]

If somehow the Asian Aro was lifted from all banned lists the poachers in their native areas would go into overdrive collecting the wild specimens for shipment.

Until they start getting refused entry because they cannot prove they are of captive bred origin with the microchip...

 

[krichardson]

Who says the micrchip thing would remain in effect,if it was such a big deal chipped fish would be sold here.

 

[krichardson]

Asian Arowanas are probably the most difficult fish to breed, you need to have the right temp, climate and luck to make these fish breed. i think you need to have the equatorial climate to make these fish breed. The US govt should lift the ban after many years when the wild number of asian arowana are abundant once again.

You may be onto something with the equatorial climate,I cant even argue about that but whats being done even now to help along the wild poulations?I know pollution and overfishing are factors going in the other direction.

 

[krichardson]

On second thought,these fish cant be the hardest to breed I mean they are not as delicate as discus with all of their needs there are even saltwater fish that are being bred regularly.These guys who produce them on their farms are doing so on a nice sized scale,that cant be chalked up to luck.I think the rain season has something to do with their spawning and I think I have an old article about a pair spawning here in a large tank.