Look whats outside my homeoffice window!!!!

[Chefken]

i hope he comes back....I have no outdoor cats anymore. I would never leave food out for him as the bears would likely get it first although hopefully this last cold snap put them pout for awhile. The "big" game hunters that want to kill these animals should keep those urges to themselves. I dont want to hear about it.

 

[latshki]

the thing about hunting big exotic game is though that most of the time, if done legally is for good cause
most times it is to reduce the population to a manageable size
say there are 100 elephants in this one national park that can only support 80 elephants
the park would lease these animals that need to be taken out to outfitters which then bring in people who take them down get their picture taken and go on with their lives
if the park didn't do this they would have too many animals resulting in disease and starvation plus the money brought in from these outfitters help keep the park staffed so they can prevent poaching

there are always two sides to the story, so please look at both before going off the deep end

 

[krzr3000]

I've seen a bobcat once while mountain biking, it was about 50 yards away. Its incredible how nimble and silently they move.

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Definitely against that. Elephants are very intelligent and have strong feelings of emotion.

And food animals aren't? Pigs are some of the most intelligent animals, google it.

 

[krzr3000]

the thing about hunting big exotic game is though that most of the time, if done legally is for good cause
most times it is to reduce the population to a manageable size
say there are 100 elephants in this one national park that can only support 80 elephants
the park would lease these animals that need to be taken out to outfitters which then bring in people who take them down get their picture taken and go on with their lives
if the park didn't do this they would have too many animals resulting in disease and starvation plus the money brought in from these outfitters help keep the park staffed so they can prevent poaching

there are always two sides to the story, so please look at both before going off the deep end

Thats a very hypothetical situation with made up numbers. Do you have any actual examples of this? Most news i read about big game hunting controversy is how none of the money goes to the locals and all to the outfitter. Not to mention how preserving the animals and encouraging ecotourism is more profitable in the long run anyways with the tourism dollars going directly in the pockets of the locals for their goods/services.

Hunting the prime adults when the herd is crowded around the watering hole in the dry season, cool bro.

 

[Chefken]

I've seen a bobcat once while mountain biking, it was about 50 yards away. Its incredible how nimble and silently they move.

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And food animals aren't? Pigs are some of the most intelligent animals, google it.

Where in CT?

 

[krzr3000]

Where in CT?

Case mountain in manchester/glastonbury.

 

[Lepisosteus platyrhincus]

the thing about hunting big exotic game is though that most of the time, if done legally is for good cause
most times it is to reduce the population to a manageable size
say there are 100 elephants in this one national park that can only support 80 elephants
the park would lease these animals that need to be taken out to outfitters which then bring in people who take them down get their picture taken and go on with their lives
if the park didn't do this they would have too many animals resulting in disease and starvation plus the money brought in from these outfitters help keep the park staffed so they can prevent poaching

there are always two sides to the story, so please look at both before going off the deep end

thank you! i was hoping someone here would step up and mention it.

Elephants are hunted because the numbers have to be thinned. So if they dont hunt them, they are gonna(this actually is how they do it in areas that dont allow hunting or cant for whatever reason) get in a helicopter fly over the head, pick a elephant and fire. At least with hunting, it isnt meaningless. Krzr, this is a fact. this is how it works. Plus hunting actually helps preserve land and animals. The amount of money that hunting brings in, actually helps preserve land and animals in countrys that previously doesnt give a crap about them.

People just dont realise. The big cats i mentiond, hunting keeps them at manegable(my spelling sucks) numbers and safe numbers. Have all of us hunters stop bear, cougar, coyotes and bobcats. See what happens. I can tell ya whats gonna happen. More people/pets/livestock are gonna be attacked.

Bobcats arnt endangered everywhere. A place my dad hunts, they are the same as coyotes here. Well and there. They got coyotes bad too. But the bobcats often take livestock(mostly small stuff, lambs chickens etc). Coyotes have a bounty on thier head. Things are everywhere. One of my best hunting spots is ruined cause of those vermin. Tons of deer, almost all gone. Studys done claim that coyotes only take down young deer, and once the deer has any age coyotes arnt a danger. Yeah right.

Just because u dont like hunting doesnt make it bad.

 

[krzr3000]

edit, nevermind. all i will say is that wildlife management in many of these countries is not always that responsible. the proposed highway over the serengeti plains in tanzania is an example of this. ecotourism brings in bigger dollars and is more consistent.

 

[Lepisosteus platyrhincus]

ur right its not always perfect or responcible. But hunting provides a larger cash revenue for many areas as well as protection for animals that other wise might not get it.
PS ecotourism and hunting can go hand in hand. u do realise that?

 

[NatashaAliza]

the thing about hunting big exotic game is though that most of the time, if done legally is for good cause
most times it is to reduce the population to a manageable size
say there are 100 elephants in this one national park that can only support 80 elephants
the park would lease these animals that need to be taken out to outfitters which then bring in people who take them down get their picture taken and go on with their lives
if the park didn't do this they would have too many animals resulting in disease and starvation plus the money brought in from these outfitters help keep the park staffed so they can prevent poaching

there are always two sides to the story, so please look at both before going off the deep end

But isn't the reason that wildlife conservation can't support these animals is because the increase of people on there land thus making the parks smaller and smaller?... I think its sad that people make the problems and kill more animals to fix it... I guess if thats what people have to do then who am I to stop it, but I have to say that its sad, really sad.

But geez, talk about a thread derail! I said it before but awesome bobcat! I'm so jealous, I used to live in Colorado, Wyoming and my family worked seasonally during the summer in Yellowstone National Park and I've never seen one! But totally agree OP with the comments about killing these guys, please keep them to yourselves.