Thanks vspec, my tap is at 7.2 and i don't have the test kits for gh and kh. I only did top ups for a while bc my nitrates never rose above 10ppm, is this why my ph went up to 7.8? I think it has leveled now though the last two days it has been 7.2.
Lowering Ph
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I agree with the posts on not getting carried away over a little variation. Driftwood helped me a lot. I have always been advised to not get sucked into chemical treatments! My fish can tolerate a wide range of PH level, but the swings in the levels stress them. Personally, I would live it alone.
No, i used acid buffer by seachem. Over three days ph went from 7.8 to 7.2, and now it is staying at 7.2.
What is considered an unstable ph for example? How fast of a change is unstable?
What is considered an unstable ph for example? How fast of a change is unstable?
I'll be honest with you, to answer your rising ph level question correctly requires a full background on every variable & contribution to your system.
So it does make it harder when its not available, so at best we're speculating bud. Bacteria themselves use a range of compounds to achieve their perspective role, and as such in a close environment it has the potential to show rather quickly. Im suspecting even more will come to light as our understanding advances as a whole.
Unstable ph is like looking a car parked on a slope, if you dont have enough "Wheel block" to prevent the momentum, then it rolls based on the elements contributing to the momentum. The environment itself doesn't give a hoot about a slip, cause it will reflect any changes autonomously, even looking at something common like photosynthesis processes within the environment is enough to realise this fact. The danger focus (compounded by a close environment) is the animals we choose to keep within it. Every point drop or gain is by a factor X10, so 10, 100, 1000x's by each shift. I guess to us, its not the same, but thinking of it along the lines of pressure to get a grasp might help.
It you need more info or assistance, we all here to help, so yell out ok bud.
So it does make it harder when its not available, so at best we're speculating bud. Bacteria themselves use a range of compounds to achieve their perspective role, and as such in a close environment it has the potential to show rather quickly. Im suspecting even more will come to light as our understanding advances as a whole.
Unstable ph is like looking a car parked on a slope, if you dont have enough "Wheel block" to prevent the momentum, then it rolls based on the elements contributing to the momentum. The environment itself doesn't give a hoot about a slip, cause it will reflect any changes autonomously, even looking at something common like photosynthesis processes within the environment is enough to realise this fact. The danger focus (compounded by a close environment) is the animals we choose to keep within it. Every point drop or gain is by a factor X10, so 10, 100, 1000x's by each shift. I guess to us, its not the same, but thinking of it along the lines of pressure to get a grasp might help.
It you need more info or assistance, we all here to help, so yell out ok bud.
That analogy makes sense, it can get out of control rather quickly. And i remember that rule of ten thing. a ph of 8 is 10X more basic than a ph of 7, and a ph of 9 is 100X more basic than a ph of 7 and so on.
Im going to get some gh and kh test kits and then maybe i'll be able to understand what exactly makes ph rise and fall.
Thanks for the support though. Cheers mate
Im going to get some gh and kh test kits and then maybe i'll be able to understand what exactly makes ph rise and fall.
Thanks for the support though. Cheers mate
Well now im kinda wishing you did, cause once you can overlook it as an oversight, but twice - thats just plain retarded.
lol
Id change it, but its reflective of life, a trail of mistakes 'is' just as much the journey, so why erase a path of understanding. Ok, so that was alittle deep, unfortunate side effect from writing the 4th instalment of the matrix.
Once your set-up, Lets look at KH first. Using real samples from contributes of your own tank will allow you to grasp the handle on whats going on like you said. GH we'll visit after. Both are integrated, however GH is reflective of a bigger box. Besides, you can break it down even further into respective element tests if you wanted to.
lolId change it, but its reflective of life, a trail of mistakes 'is' just as much the journey, so why erase a path of understanding. Ok, so that was alittle deep, unfortunate side effect from writing the 4th instalment of the matrix.
Once your set-up, Lets look at KH first. Using real samples from contributes of your own tank will allow you to grasp the handle on whats going on like you said. GH we'll visit after. Both are integrated, however GH is reflective of a bigger box. Besides, you can break it down even further into respective element tests if you wanted to.
Cliff519;4268234; said:
100% correct .. its better to get your fish used to your water .. because when you do your water changes .. you will have to fix your PH before you add your water or you will have PH jumps and/or dips ..
if you go to a lake or pond you will find all kinds of temps .. but the PH will be about the exact same anywhere you test it ..
