Martial arts question...spinning chop caused temporary hand pain.

[knifegill]

I am not trained in any martial arts. I do have good body awareness, though, and like to move around a lot when I'm getting aerobic exercise, etc. So I've discovered that a quick spin on one heel while using both arms as gyroscopic generators can put a tremendous amount of energy into any motion made by the leading arm in the same direction at the peak of the spin. Now for the weird thing. It hurt. The first few tries were just half-attempts to make sure my limbs were going where I wanted them to. But when I really got on axis and put some whip into it, I felt pain in the palm of my hand the moment after the extension and movement of my arm. I had my eye on the hand and was a bit taken aback at how fast it moved, at least fast enough to have broken my own stupid fingers if they had hit anything. Was it just blood temporarily pushing a valve backwards in a vein? It went away after a few minutes, but I'm mot trying that again any time soon. Any input?


And, yes, I know about the hillbilly ninja, thanks.

 

[Thalan]

The blood rush sounds about right. I have vague memories of something similar as a kid. Dont know what I was doing but I remember swinging my arms in a way that it felt like my joints extended for a second.

 

[WyldFya]

More likely a pinched nerve. FYI, spinning on your heel is dangerous, as you are far more off balance, and can easily fall, and seriously hurt yourself.

 

[Death Pony]

Use the ball of your foot as the pivot point next time. Which part of your hand did you strike with?You want to flex your thumb backwards so the outside of you hand has extra muscle cushioning raised. The person holding the board can have a big effect on it too.

A little off topic, but my brother once broke a board with a spearhand strike, nothing but his fingers. I was holding the board, so when I saw how he broke it, I was a little shocked that he did it without breaking his fingers.

 

[knifegill]

Cool comments so far!

I remember swinging my arms in a way that it felt like my joints extended for a second.

I remember that rubbery flop feeling, too. I think my ligaments are a bit too rigid for that these days, though. And I'd recognize that sensation.

More likely a pinched nerve. FYI, spinning on your heel is dangerous, as you are far more off balance, and can easily fall, and seriously hurt yourself.

I'm not sure how I could have pinched a nerve near the palm of my hand - unless one of the small bones of my hand shifted - and I suppose that's possible! And I don't fall. Seriously, I can walk along fence tops. I've just always had that (except when I was a drunk!). I would make the same warning to somebody, I guess. Safety first!

Use the ball of your foot as the pivot point next time. Which part of your hand did you strike with?You want to flex your thumb backwards so the outside of you hand has extra muscle cushioning raised. The person holding the board can have a big effect on it too.

A little off topic, but my brother once broke a board with a spearhand strike, nothing but his fingers. I was holding the board, so when I saw how he broke it, I was a little shocked that he did it without breaking his fingers.

Oh, I will try the ball of my foot in future spins, thanks! I've just always used the heel since that's how I did it as a kid on the kitchen floor. I wasn't actually striking anything. I don't have medical insurance right now, so that's the last thing I need to be doing.
On the spearhead strike, I've been strengthening my fingers for a long time now. I was a sander in a wood shop, do pushups on my fingertips, etc., but I don't think I have the guts to send my soldiers marching into a plank of wood yet! Good for him!

 

[Mailm4n]

Martial arts is my hobby and was my carreer for basically my entire life. Within the first few sentences of reading this post the main martial arts (this may be true in other physically demanding sports other than fighting) but you need to rotate on the ball of your foot rather than your heel forever and always.
Next you said you had your eye on your hand, you need to be looking at your target and your intentions should be to go through your target rather than reach it.

As for the pain, martial arts and fighting for that matter work musclds in your body that you dont use in everyday life, or normal gym workout routines. so there is a good potential you strained a muscle / ligiment (sp?!) / tendon. If the pain continues, use RICE (rest, ice, compress,elevate). also, try to (within reason in reguard to your precieved level of pain) work that area of your hand, whether that be in the form of squeezing one of those squishy little strength balls thats filled with flour or whatever is in them, but work the area a little to give strength back to it.

Im no doctor, but I am an avid and practicing martial artist. just speaking from my own experiences.
Oh, and dont be ashamed of being a hillbilly ninja. Everyones gotta start somewhere. And if thats the passion that sparks the flame then so be it. I used to run and jump around punching imaginary enemies when i was really little. And look at me now, I am a 5 time national champion fighter. anything is possible.

 

[knifegill]

Right on! Yeah, my eye was on the imaginary target. I just noticed the hand as it flew through it and pretty much vanished to the right of my field of vision and reappeared to the left. I'd never seen anything like that before. Blurring, sure, but this was like everything beyond my shoulder just disappeared. I've never moved that fast before.

The pain was more like a strange inflated feeling than a strain or pinch. I've experienced a lot of physical sensations in my extremities with all the different jobs and things I've done. This felt mostly like someone was pushing from the inside. It wasn't a sharp pain, nor was it hot or cold. It was almost like when a muscle rolls across a marble on the floor and you feel that round, transient, pushing pain. And within two minutes it was gone completely. There's no trace of it now, I have full range of painless (well, normal) movement.


5 time national champion. Awesome! Makes me think I've wasted my life. You think 28 is too late to start training?

 

[scriving]

Martial arts is my hobby and was my carreer for basically my entire life. Within the first few sentences of reading this post the main martial arts (this may be true in other physically demanding sports other than fighting) but you need to rotate on the ball of your foot rather than your heel forever and always.
Next you said you had your eye on your hand, you need to be looking at your target and your intentions should be to go through your target rather than reach it.

As for the pain, martial arts and fighting for that matter work musclds in your body that you dont use in everyday life, or normal gym workout routines. so there is a good potential you strained a muscle / ligiment (sp?!) / tendon. If the pain continues, use RICE (rest, ice, compress,elevate). also, try to (within reason in reguard to your precieved level of pain) work that area of your hand, whether that be in the form of squeezing one of those squishy little strength balls thats filled with flour or whatever is in them, but work the area a little to give strength back to it.

Im no doctor, but I am an avid and practicing martial artist. just speaking from my own experiences.
Oh, and dont be ashamed of being a hillbilly ninja. Everyones gotta start somewhere. And if thats the passion that sparks the flame then so be it. I used to run and jump around punching imaginary enemies when i was really little. And look at me now, I am a 5 time national champion fighter. anything is possible.

o ya what martial arts do you train in?

 

[SumoNinja]

I train UFC, your form was all wrong

 

[packer43064]

Right on! Yeah, my eye was on the imaginary target. I just noticed the hand as it flew through it and pretty much vanished to the right of my field of vision and reappeared to the left. I'd never seen anything like that before. Blurring, sure, but this was like everything beyond my shoulder just disappeared. I've never moved that fast before.

The pain was more like a strange inflated feeling than a strain or pinch. I've experienced a lot of physical sensations in my extremities with all the different jobs and things I've done. This felt mostly like someone was pushing from the inside. It wasn't a sharp pain, nor was it hot or cold. It was almost like when a muscle rolls across a marble on the floor and you feel that round, transient, pushing pain. And within two minutes it was gone completely. There's no trace of it now, I have full range of painless (well, normal) movement.


5 time national champion. Awesome! Makes me think I've wasted my life. You think 28 is too late to start training?

Your 28?!

With how the thread started and everything you seemed like some 35-40 year old trying some fake ninja moves. Dude your young. Anyone who is 20-something is young. Very young personally, even 30 is nothing really. I'm 21 and I feel like a kid in the "big" world. Just throwing out some random comments.