Maskoheros or Vieja argentea, silver vieja, at Fish Story

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I don't want any battles either, especially in my thread, but a calm, friendly, respectful, and constructive exchange of opinions is more than welcome. I've tagged some of the cichlid experts off the top of my head, maybe they will choose to provide an opinion just for my learning sake, everbody else can remain at their opinions.

But for now I remain confused. I don't see that Viejaman's fish is the same as even the internet pics, albeit IDK anything about argentea qualities, location variants, morphs, hybrids, what not.
 
It could possibly be a xanthic argentea?
a quick google search for "xanthic argentea" brought this up
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Or a genetic morph of some vieja, xanthic sounds plausible. I would believe argentea for this fish based on tall forehead body shape, but I can't say for sure what it is. You say it is a pure argentea, who did you get the fish from and how did they know?
 
I dont feel and want to go into a long battle.. but yes they are pure 100 percent pure they are peeled the silver that remains its on bottom and peeling very rare and u wont find anywhere

Sorry, I didn't want to start any battle. English is not my native language. So it might have sounded to harsh. I am just interested in a normal discussion.

The small hint that these fish are faders or that they had peeled would have been enough to reduce my and maybe others doubts.

By the way I still would be happy to see a full body underwater picture. Just to learn more about this rare version of argenteus.
 
It looks like Viejaman323 had been scarred by prior long battles :) and has lost the mood to teach me the finer points of the Vieja argentea business, which is quite fine. No expectations.

The three argentea have been doing well in their new 1800 gal, except the smaller female has had its pectoral fins tattered but IDK by who and IDK if it was a part of their courtship / breeding attempt... at some point it looked like the pair was guarding one spot between the rocks.

In the 240 gal, the dominant male had beat up / bitten up the other male so I had to separate it but in this larger tank no beating has been observed thus far. These are the two males:


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No problem, friend! As I said no expectations. I just admired your argentea and the knowledge you displayed in the few short posts already... and I will always hope and strive to learn more from anyone I meet on MFK.

I don't mean to impose... and whenever you got time and desire I'd rather do it in the thread because I believe united we learn the best and most reliably.

Again, you owe me nothing. I owe you actually.
 
One of the males, ~14"-16", had gone to Roderigo at PredatoryFins on a way to his customer. So we only have two left, a male and a female, in 1800 gal, where they claimed a spot and loosely defend it.

The male:

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No this is not a hybrid... 100 percent pure.. but have genes and gene morph.. all argentea have this yellow undertone

Yours new but awesome tanks and setup

U can see the grey black spots

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Yellow undertone web pic

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Got better pics of yours
Sorry to say it's not Argentea for sure!But indeed like the other guy told it can be xanthic but definitely not the normal silvery argentea.Anyways it's a gr8 fish you got there buddy.Happy fish keeping.
 
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