Mbu not growing

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Yer its a puplic forum but your writing stuff you dont know about and trying to sound knowledgeable when really your just copying pufferpunk. When you keep a MBU you can talk about there needs and a chat more crap about tank size.

OK so explain to me where it says I have not keept them?
 
Any more insults get thrown around in this thread, and members are going to be getting banned. Keep it civil.
 
OK so explain to me where it says I have not keept them?

Its obvious you havn't keeped them becouse you have never talked about how your MBU done in a 1000g tank and i highly doupt you have the needed 1000g tank that these fish need as far as your concerned.
 
ok Borgey ,
if you have kept Mbu's share your experiance.
how long did you have one and in what size tank?

i actually checked out the puffer forum you suggested and found it a bit limiting, all the advice seems to stem from one source.
i feel slightly uncomfortable with the dont question the all knowing Mentor/ leader mentality on the site.
especially when certain quotes of his are repeated on this site out of context and are used to insult members about there fishkeeping.

the reason i prefer Mfk is that for the most part people will share their knowledge of fishkeeping without the 'holier than now' attitude,
and will try and answer questions without attacking/ insulting the op.
cheers
 
ive seen these arguements in loads of puffer threads, puffer punk has got called out on her 'facts' before.
heres the thread http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?402217-The-Hypocrite-thread-mbu
Their are some really valid arguements in the above thread as to why a Mbu does not need a 1000g tank.
this guru she keeps spouting on about was shown to have kept puffers in tanks which were too small.
heres the specific piece about 1000 gallons

'Robert T Ricketts wrote that article after a failed attempt at trying to keep a mbu long term in a 180 gallon tank. After his single experience with attempting to keep his mbu in a 180 gallon tank, he made a post about what he personally felt the fish truly required (1,000 gallons) which has then been repeated over & over & over again ad nauseum.

Stuart Morse later echoes the same sentiments in his article on Mbu, after his failed attempt at raising his Mbu in a 100 gallon tank. (400 litres to be precise)

And Pufferpunk, while you may not have originally come up with that number, you have probably repeated it more times than anyone else. '

Pufferpunk i know your only trying to help but you have to acknowledge that actual experiance in keeping a fish has to be worth more than your assumptions.
what makes it worse is that your conviction that this guy is all knowing on the subject of puffers has created a whole section of people who constantly give peope abuse about their tank size without the benefit of any actual experiance.
surely Andrex with 20 yrs plus experiance in keeping Mbu shouldnt have to fend off criticism from a Mbu newbie on some moral crusade fueled by what is effectively guesswork by someone who has never kept them.
that is all, rant over lol

I've also seen that thread and it left me questioning why a mbu "needs" 1000 gallons. Is it a bioload issue as it seems to be claimed? Couldn't you just set something up like an automatic water changer and do constant water changes every day, coupled with a large sump for additional water volume? I'm not calling anyone out here or trying to insult anyone, I'm just asking.

If it's a space issue for the fish to simply move around enough, why does a 2 foot long fish need such a massive tank compared to other fish of similar size that are just as sensitive to water quality (like stingrays mentioned)?

With a system constantly changing out water, why couldn't a mbu be healthy in a 500 gallon tank with a good footprint with this constant clean water? What exactly is the issue that makes the jump to 1000 gallons?
 
I've also seen that thread and it left me questioning why a mbu "needs" 1000 gallons. Is it a bioload issue as it seems to be claimed? Couldn't you just set something up like an automatic water changer and do constant water changes every day, coupled with a large sump for additional water volume? I'm not calling anyone out here or trying to insult anyone, I'm just asking.

If it's a space issue for the fish to simply move around enough, why does a 2 foot long fish need such a massive tank compared to other fish of similar size that are just as sensitive to water quality (like stingrays mentioned)?

With a system constantly changing out water, why couldn't a mbu be healthy in a 500 gallon tank with a good footprint with this constant clean water? What exactly is the issue that makes the jump to 1000 gallons?

This is why the other forum makes me slightly uncomfortable, people on Mfk have brought up these valid points on at least 3 separate threads and the 1000 gallon brigand just dont want to hear them.
The truth is there is no valid reason that i can ascertain that a Mbu needs a 1000 gallon tank, a tank with a decent footprint and proper filtration seems plenty to me.
more importantly though, people who have actually kept these fish tell me its plenty.
i have just got myself a baby fahaka puffer yesterday and have looked elsewhere for the info i need on them as i just havent the energy to justify myself to the inevitable barrage of the 1000 gallon brigade.
The main problem mfk has on its puffer forum is that the majority of advice handed out is repeated from pf, which is fine if you have been here a while and know to take the advice with a pinch of salt,
however if you were a newbie there is a fair chance that you'll give up the idea of keeping a puffer altogether as you'll never afford the huge tank ur suppossed to need, or worse still spread the bad advice further afield
 
You know, I should have clicked that link and re-read that thread before posting. All my questions were addressed by multiple people with different opinions on the subject, so there's no need to respond to my previous post on this thread. I am still of the position that I QUESTION the 1000 gallon number, but everyone can read through that thread and come to their own conclusions.

I still don't understand all the attitude though.
 
ok Borgey ,
if you have kept Mbu's share your experiance.
how long did you have one and in what size tank?

i actually checked out the puffer forum you suggested and found it a bit limiting, all the advice seems to stem from one source.
i feel slightly uncomfortable with the dont question the all knowing Mentor/ leader mentality on the site.
especially when certain quotes of his are repeated on this site out of context and are used to insult members about there fishkeeping.

the reason i prefer Mfk is that for the most part people will share their knowledge of fishkeeping without the 'holier than now' attitude,
and will try and answer questions without attacking/ insulting the op.
cheers

I agree with you, the 1000gallon tank idea started with one man/woman on the puffer forum and now is being spread on that forum and this forum. And then this causes a problem when people post something similar to "just brought a MBU" becouse they will get bombarded with comments about tank size when there is no need. You dont see this happening on other parts of the forum becouse several people on this part of the forum seem to be really stubborn about sticking to what they heard.
 
as for your original question knobhill, it seems to me you are doing all you can,
i reckon you Mbu will soon start to grow,
when hes does post a few picks.
sorry for derailing the thread i just wanted to let you know the extent of how some of the 'facts' about these fish is actually guesswork.
hope it turns out good for you,
cheers
 
Final answer the original question minus the BS. Mbu grow in spurts. seems like they shoot up one or two inches at a time, take a break, then repeat. From what it looks like you are feeding him and the size tank he is in...he should be FINE. Just keep doing what you are doing and he will be a nice chunky Mbu one day. Also for the record...my MB\bu loves his 300 gallon.
 
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