Michigan natives

[Polypterus]

And dont make fun of americans

I don't think any of us have to.... your doing it for them..

Sorry Aurthur.(For the Ostrich)...

This topic has now used up it's ability to promote rational or intellectual dialog..

 

[unbeatablec]

I havnt heard of an american cichlid, I have heard of a south american cichlid though, and no I do not breed them, if thats what you mean by mix. And another thing, why am I being harrassed for saying my opinion on non-native fish??? because I drew the race card to show a point???

 

[TheBloodyIrish]

And do you see my original point???

about fish being fish
and humans being humans????

Your point is that invasive species are okay to stay in non-native waters. Since when being a fish is one species?

The invasive Round Goby aka Apollonia melanostomus is completely different from a native Logperch aka Percina caprodes. They are completely different species. Period.

 

[wolfcichild027]

dude a natural fish is not just a feeder are you stupid if one fish from our natural ecosystem dies they all die have you even taken ecology i you havent you should read up sometimes instead of making an idiot of yourself

 

[unbeatablec]

Your point is that invasive species are okay to stay in non-native waters. Since when being a fish is one species?

Round Goby aka Apollonia melanostomus is completely different from a logperch aka Percina caprodes. They are completely different species. Period.

But if they can live in the same type of water, in the same region of the world, so be it.

 

[unbeatablec]

dude a natural fish is not just a feeder are you stupid if one fish from our natural ecosystem dies they all die have you even taken ecology i you havent you should read up sometimes instead of making an idiot of yourself

And mods I would like your help to get this member to stop harrassing me and calling me names. Thank You

PS many fish from our ecosystem have died, and there "species" is still around, I dont see them gone, and please type better, I dont mean to be rude but I cannot understand what you are saying, particularly here

you even taken ecology i you havent

what does that mean??

 

[sandtiger]

Mod, please do something about the race bashing.

PS Jon. i think having a goby is sweet, id keep it on the down low though because of the people that know you have it.

And dont make fun of americans, and I find racist hicks just as much of a racial slur as the N word. So Mod, please do something about this

I don't see any race bashing coming from "BloodyIrish" and from you I am seeing more of a diplay of ignorance then actual racism but you. You need to be the most careful here, you're implying that a white person is a different species then a black person and they are not. I ask that the talks about race stop and since you brought it up "unbeatable" I am mostly directing it towards you. I will however say that you cannot compair the introduction of fish to natural human migration and since all races of humans are the same species (Homo sapian) it does not matter how any of the races got here.

On the issue of invasive fish species, I agree with everything poly and bloodyIrish said. Round goby don't belong here, nether do snakeheads, carp, brown trout or any fish that did not naturally get here by itself. North America belongs to the fish that were here when we got here and we should work to keep it as close to that way as possable, that means destroying any fish that we made the terrable mistake of bringing over.

As for the issue of keeping the round gobys, I gotta be honest. As long as they aren't in the out in the wild I don't care what you do with them. The laws says you should kill them, be aware of that. If you think it's worth the risk then so be it, just keep them to yourself. I realize that some people won't like this responce from me but all well, that's my opinion. I'm just happy that it's two less invasives in the wild.

 

[TheBloodyIrish]

But if they can live in the same type of water, in the same region of the world, so be it.

And I shall return to the wonderful joy of herp-keeping. At least most exotic herps in northern U.S. and Canada don't survive in the wild, so if people are stupid enough to release them -- nature will take care of them -- unlike most of the commonly kept Euroasian fish.

Now if the guy want to keep one in his own privacy, I don't care what he does with them as long they are not being released and are under good care.

 

[greenterra]

Ok, humans can go whereever on the earth they please, why cant fish?

If the Goby you are talking about is not native to the area and has caused big problems to any ecosystems there,than any laws in place are warranted.We have that problem here with Carp.It is illeagle if you catch 1 and not kill it.You can't return it to the water.

Unbeatablec.Your type of attitude is how we ended up the Carp and the Cane Toad.It seems you only care about the Goby and not the many species of native fish it can potentially wipe out.
You're comment you made bringing slaves into the mix was way off the subject and uncalled for.

 

[sandtiger]

This appears to be a hot topic. So far this thread is on it's way to being locked. I would like to remind everyone that there is no need for name calling or loosing your cool. Keep it civil and mature and the thread stays open.