Michigan natives

[wolfcichild027]

sorry for the insult but i just dont like it when people couldnt care about a problem and dude ecology is the study of ecosystems you learn it in standard biology in the ninth grade you should read a book on it to learn more on the havoc a invasive species can cause like the snake heads thanks to them many ponds of native fish were destroyed or poisened sorry if i make spelling mistakes

 

[Polypterus]

As for the issue of keeping the round gobys, I gotta be honest. As long as they aren't in the out in the wild I don't care what you do with them. The laws says you should kill them, be aware of that. If you think it's worth the risk then so be it, just keep them to yourself. I realize that some people won't like this responce from me but all well, that's my opinion. I'm just happy that it's two less invasives in the wild.

I have to say (and this will surprise some) I agree with this as well..As long as the fish is removed from the wild, contained and it will never see natural waters again.. I could really care less if one keeps one in Michigan within the affected area. This however is not the law regarding these fish so by doing so you do open yourself up to legal actions and the issues that come along with it.

I personally would be a hypocrite to say I have followed the letter of the law on this myself..I have kept both Exotic goby species found in the Great lakes..This was before the newer more strict laws but it was even then a bit of a NO NO to do so.

 

[TicaL]

How big are these Gobies? What makes them so invasive to the ecosystem of the Great Lakes?

 

[TheBloodyIrish]

They are accidently carried over in the cargohold of ships from the Black Sea. When the ballasts are dumped into the Great Lakes, the gobies directly compete with the local logperches and sculpins.

 

[unbeatablec]

Well, If this is such a big deal, why doesn't grandholm do something about it?? How come during the State elections last year, no one mentioned anything about these goby?? I have an Idea, why dont grandholm, create a bussiness where we can hire unemployed people to catch and kill these goby, we will be ridding ourselfs of the non-native species killing our native species, and we will be adding to the economy and bringing jobs to michigan and the surrounding great lakes. I tried to right to grandholm about a few things, which are reopening the bell isle aquarium, and keeping tiger stadium standing, she only replies with a stupid letter saying I should get more involved in politics, so could someone over 18 word our concern better and mention my bussiness idea??? because I dont think she takes me seriously, and I really try to sound adult like.

PS im sorry for everything I said earlier, this was the first time I heard of gobies and I didnt know they were such a threat.

 

[TheBloodyIrish]

Well, If this is such a big deal, why doesn't grandholm do something about it?? How come during the State elections last year, no one mentioned anything about these goby??

The average voter just think of animals... as animals. They don't think about biodiversity. Look at it this way, anglers don't care, as long their game fish remain intact.

Of course Florida is a bit more aware of the issue since they are seeing the impact right now. Even then... they are more worried about birds and reptiles than fish.

 

[Polypterus]

Well, If this is such a big deal, why doesn't grandholm do something about it??

Currently there have been unprecedented laws put into place regarding ballast water.
These fish among others are also a major focus point of many working in the state on biodiversity and Great lakes restoration. This is not a sexy topic that gets politicians elected. Granholm can not do anything about it other than pass appropriate laws.


On the Goby themselves no one can do anything about them now as they are established. Prevention is always better than attempting eradication when invasive species are involved. The most that could be done is to stop their spread to inland lakes and to other watershed where they are not present. This is the point of the above law that places a hefty fine on transportation and possession. We DO NOT want these fish spreading any more than they have already.

 

[unbeatablec]

Currently there have been unprecedented laws put into place regarding ballast water.
These fish among others are also a major focus point of many working in the state on biodiversity and Great lakes restoration. This is not a sexy topic that gets politicians elected. Granholm can not do anything about it other than pass appropriate laws.


On the Goby themselves no one can do anything about them now as they are established. Prevention is always better than attempting eradication when invasive species are involved. The most that could be done is to stop their spread to inland lakes and to other watershed where they are not present. This is the point of the above law that places a hefty fine on transportation and possession. We DO NOT want these fish spreading any more than they have already.

But If my idea works, we could at least catch them at spawning season and look for there eggs. that would create jobs and STOP the spawnings. killing 2 birds with 1 stone

 

[TheBloodyIrish]

But If my idea works, we could at least catch them at spawning season and look for there eggs. that would create jobs and STOP the spawnings. killing 2 birds with 1 stone

Florida tried to do that... and ended up killing some of their own native populations in the process.

 

[Polypterus]

But If my idea works, we could at least catch them at spawning season and look for there eggs. that would create jobs and STOP the spawnings. killing 2 birds with 1 stone

That is not going to happen...Plus it will not dent the population in the original infested areas. This is a novel and inventive idea but is just not practical from a logistical or economic stand point.