midas/red devil breeding for certain colours, gene help?

[justarn]

hey all, im hopeing to breed my own midas colour varient with four colours so i need some help. i currently have the fish in my avatar, he is orange yellow and black, he is breeding with a solid orange atm but im getting a really nice white and orange f2 female soon. what im hopeing to achieve is black, orange, yellow and white... does anyone have any pointers or have any evidence on dominant and resesive gene colours??

for example im thinking because theres so many solid orange ones around im thinking orange is probably a dominant colour... maybe all the fry i have now will be solid orange but carry the black genes and when they breed with another fish carrying the black gene you'll get some black? similar to the way the ebjd's work??? is this the case or am i reading way to much into this?

anyone with any experience?

 

[Miguel]

There are a lot of guys who know about this.

But genetics in fishs species are not comparable. What one avhiebes with a Dempasey is per chance not achievable with an Amphilophus.

 

[justarn]

cheers miguel, ive found a really nice female for him now... hopefully i get her (explain later!-). yeah i was thinking that, i guess trying to breed for ebjd is similar to trying to breed for albino's where as im just going for colour traits...

anymore help will be much appreciated.

(pretty much all my other fish are going miguel leaving my big tank for a sailfin plec, sydontis cat, ornate pim cat, a jack demsey, midas pair, and dovii pair for now. selling the new male too.... someone tryed to buy my gg today but only has a 4 foot tank, cant do that really not fair is it..)

 

[Miguel]

Your new male is insane looking! Have you lost your mind?

 

[justarn]

lol.... maybe? the new female is same colours and even nicer dare i say it?

 

[Miguel]

Ship him over to me. Get in touch with your lfs to see if they can do it. I will, of course, cover all costs.

M

 

[justarn]

here...
my plan is him...

cross her

and the male miguel thinks im mad for selling is him

 

[justarn]

really? you see his dorsal fin is a bit deformed, trails of down....

 

[Miguel]

We are talking about the big one in the second picture, right?

 

[Aquanero]

If you are looking to create a strain of fish that breed true you will need to do some extensive reasearch into genetics. Unfortunatly not my forte but the domestic Angelfish and Discus breeders practise this type of thing all the time when trying to achieve different color variants, finnage lengths, patterns ect. I guess even the flowerhorn guys use it but that's all fish voodoo to me. Good luck, the reasearch itself shoud be a pretty good educational experiance.