minimum tank size for....
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Jason_S said:severums grow waaay to big for a 29. I've seen an adult severum in a 55 and the poor sev didn't look comfy (hence my recommendation for 75). severums can get a lot bigger (and bulkier) than a lot of people realize.
eh, think an 8" max fish is ok in a 29 gallon minimum, of course bigger is better, but we're talking minimum here, hey at least i didn't say 10 gallon (20x10x12) or 20 gallon high (24x12x16)
Fry said:
some 8" fish (bichir for example) may be ok in a 29 gallon, but a severum is pretty much circular meaning that when it's 8" long it will also be close to 8" tall and at least 2" thick. adult severums are incredibly bulky and would have very, very limited swimming room in a 29 gallon. so, if by "minimum" you mean minimum but allowing the fish to stay wet and alive then ok 29 gallons. when I say "minimum" though I mean minimum to keep the fish alive and happy. no way could an adult sev. be happy in a 29. keeping an adult severum in a 29 gallon would be the equivalent to keeping an adult midas in a 30 long (36" x 12" x 17") or an adult jag in a 45 breeder (36" x 18" x 17").
Jason_S said:some 8" fish (bichir for example) may be ok in a 29 gallon, but a severum is pretty much circular meaning that when it's 8" long it will also be close to 8" tall and at least 2" thick. adult severums are incredibly bulky and would have very, very limited swimming room in a 29 gallon. so, if by "minimum" you mean minimum but allowing the fish to stay wet and alive then ok 29 gallons. when I say "minimum" though I mean minimum to keep the fish alive and happy. no way could an adult sev. be happy in a 29. keeping an adult severum in a 29 gallon would be the equivalent to keeping an adult midas in a 30 long (36" x 12" x 17") or an adult jag in a 45 breeder (36" x 18" x 17").
nah, 8" long still leaves 4" to spare for it to turn and such, i didn't suggest anything smaller because i know how wide and tall they get, a midas gets 12" long and the 30 long is only 12" wide, jags can get over 20" long when the 45 is only 18" wide, it's a completely different story, for a single specimen i think it's ok, it will be as happy as a midas in a 50 wide and happier than a jag in a 75
Jason_S said:on the motaguense. same goes for P. loisellei and P. friedrichsthalli.
Yeap, they are all smaller Guapotes that can substitute a Jag....but it just really isn't the same without the badass Jag underbite, pattern and size
...Their appearance makes ya think they are fish kings.. 
I gotta get me a Mota one day...I hear they are more aggro, their body is built stronger and they have some major teeth for a smaller guapote.
rallysman said:
the question was "minimum" tank size
, i agree, it's cruel, this hobby is weird like that sometimes, we want all the fish in the world but none of us have the world to house them, unfortunately sometimes minimum is all the space we can offer, sometimes less which is tragic, best thing we can do is have big tanks (hail! MFK!!!) and try to refrain from buying the fish we can't handle properly with our equipment
if whats the case?