Mixed Centrals and Africans tank

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that's right NO REPLY cuz you know your little Africans hold a candle to my new world cichlids. when talkin African cichlids toughness the buttikoferi is the only fish that's name can even be brought up in the conversation though its not even a cichlid and even the toughest buttikoferi you can find gets made into fishcakes by the average dovii. please reply with something so I can make you look even more bad

Is someone forgetting Boulengerochromis?

I would also think Champsochromis and Tyrannochromis would be able to hold their own fairly well.
 
yeah but he said something about a ca sa cichlid the same size is no match for a mbuna. all im saying is thats not a good measure of whos toughest you cant pit a baby or the most bit**made of new world cichlids against a full grown mature fish. mbuna get chopped to pieces by the full grown versions of the fish he proclaims to be the loser in HIS scenario. its like saying zimbabwe has better mma fighters than oh say brazil and usa. take the L. the reason 85 % of us new world cichlid fans are on here is cuz we like "monster" cichlids that are viscious and full of attitude and we end up with new world cichlids in almost all our tanks not fish that max out at 5 inches. he was being biased cuz he likes mbuna. i like mbuna too ive kept dozens of them at a time but in a battle of teeth on teeth your lucky if they dont end up being made food if you keep them with new world cichlids (tough ones which include festae/parachromis genus/green terror/haitian cichlid/beani/dovii/umbee/grammodes/cuban cichlid n many more.)these fish deserve respect and are willing to slaughter opposing fish for even the largest most open pieces of territoy thats why most of us dont even bother with "tankmates" we clear out hundreds of gallons at a time to make way for these fish.
 
Id say just try it and see. I have had alto comps in my SA set up and currently got alto calvus. I find he is generally left alone as they turn their sides out when attacked and the new worlds dont like that at all. The calvus will often chase fish that are his size or smaller though.

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I moved him tonight. I think it can't hurt he was pretty miserable in with the tangs. He'll be the flattest fish in the tank once the rest fatten up so he mebbe able to find his own hiding spots down the road. The biggest Cuban all of 2" is flaring up at him and he is just turning sides to him.
 
Start your own thread for this nonsense. I didn't ask for a discussion on "my fish can beat up your fish". Thanks.

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My general consensus is that your type of tank should have little problems. It's really no different than keeping say a big blackbelt or midas in with a group of neets or convicts. If the smaller feistier fish are provided adequate cover they should have no problem jetting out and retreating. My only further advice is do not try it with larger more accomplished predators. I tried mixing 6 3-4" convicts in a 180 with a foot long umbee male and a 6 inch female a couple years ago, and it was not harmonious. In about 3 days, I was left with 2 fat umbees and 1 cowering convict that I rescued.

As a sidenote, the tank was filled with heavy cover in the form of rock caves and roots. Everybody claims that umbees are open water predators, but I found them to be quite efficient at ambush hunting as well. I watched them lay motionless until the convicts had some sort of territorial dispute, then like lighting, dart forward and suck up the smaller convicts. My guess is Jags and Dovii would do the same. Therefore, if it were me, I would omit these species and similar predators.
 
i use to have a female jag, oscar, green terror, jack dempsey and an equal sized frontosa. they were all fine until i realized a 90 gallon would only fit one of them lol ya live and ya learn
 
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