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hamato_yoshii;4149050; said:
http://mmajunkie.com/news/19176/str...n-gilbert-melendez-vs-eddie-alvarez-fight.mma

Strikforce and Bellator open to co-promotion of Gilbert Melendez vs. Eddie Alvarez.


This is a pretty big deal. If the UFC's competitors are going to be open to co-promotions, it could either force the UFC's hand to do some of the same, or at least, will likely greatly increase the popularity of the second tier promotions like Strikeforce and Bellator.
Good move if they actually do it.

nater;4150053; said:
UFC won't co promote after what happened with Pride back in the day.

i don't think UFC will co promote anytime soon either. they are just too huge right now to care. i love eating at this burger joint in town, Steve's Burgers, but if I'm MacDonald's, I'm never going to copromote with them. they can copromote with Paco's Tacos and Yoshinoya's all they want, I'm not going to deal with them. Not gonna happen,............ especially if they only have a couple of good items on their menu. The items on my menu do well everyday, and my sales smashes theirs on any given day, why would I copromote something with them and give them half the cut or a slice of the pie? I can do it on my own and take the whole pie.

pwmin;4150018; said:
that's a huge deal! and would be a superb fight. gotta go w/ eddie on that one.

no way eddie takes this fight. his gas tank isn't as good as Gil's and I think Gil is more well rounded. this will be a good fight, but on paper, Gil takes it. Eddie's best chance is to ko Gil, but I dont' see that happening
 
Melendez takes that fight if he is anything like he was in his last fight.
 
svang55;4150986; said:
i don't think UFC will co promote anytime soon either. they are just too huge right now to care. i love eating at this burger joint in town, Steve's Burgers, but if I'm MacDonald's, I'm never going to copromote with them. they can copromote with Paco's Tacos and Yoshinoya's all they want, I'm not going to deal with them. Not gonna happen,............ especially if they only have a couple of good items on their menu. The items on my menu do well everyday, and my sales smashes theirs on any given day, why would I copromote something with them and give them half the cut or a slice of the pie? I can do it on my own and take the whole pie.


Yeah, but if Burger King teams up with Wendys/Sonic/KFC, it might get McDonalds attention.
 
hamato_yoshii;4151568; said:
Yeah, but if Burger King teams up with Wendys/Sonic/KFC, it might get McDonalds attention.

but the thing is this,........... i don't know about sonics, but wendy's, burger king and kfc are big enough themselves that they dont' need to copromote.

they are not as big as macdonalds, but they are big enough to do it themselves. why co promote with wendys when burger king is doing fine on it's own? like i said, why split the cash with someone else?

i believe that if SF and Dream or any other get as big as UFC, they will stop copromoting. they would refuse to copromote also if they were in UFC's shoes. a big time org copromoting with struggling orgs is bad business and makes no sense for the big time org. the smaller orgs are doing it because they need to and it only benefits them to.
 
UFC already has a great partner of sorts in the SPIKE channel which has helped them expose their product.I think the relationship with SPIKE with all of the programming is what really put UFC ahead of the others.
 
svang55;4153289; said:
but the thing is this,........... i don't know about sonics, but wendy's, burger king and kfc are big enough themselves that they dont' need to copromote.

they are not as big as macdonalds, but they are big enough to do it themselves. why co promote with wendys when burger king is doing fine on it's own? like i said, why split the cash with someone else?
It's all about being the biggest and best. No major company or corporation should ever be content with their financial standings. Competition drives everything in the business world.
i believe that if SF and Dream or any other get as big as UFC, they will stop copromoting. they would refuse to copromote also if they were in UFC's shoes. a big time org copromoting with struggling orgs is bad business and makes no sense for the big time org. the smaller orgs are doing it because they need to and it only benefits them to.
If it ever got to that point, I believe the co-promoting would stop and a merger would take place...
 
krichardson;4153426; said:
UFC already has a great partner of sorts in the SPIKE channel which has helped them expose their product.I think the relationship with SPIKE with all of the programming is what really put UFC ahead of the others.
They were ahead even before that though. UFC was the first to do anything like this really and early on they had a reputation for being brutal and bloody. I dont it crossed anyones mind that there could be other leagues at first, UFC was it.
 
Thalan;4153561; said:
They were ahead even before that though. UFC was the first to do anything like this really and early on they had a reputation for being brutal and bloody. I dont it crossed anyones mind that there could be other leagues at first, UFC was it.
Oh I know,heck I still have some of the old VHS tapes from when they were under Semaphor.My point was just that they have all of the partnering they need with Spike.I think it is Strikeforce who has the tv deal with CBS and they don't seem to be as behind them as Spike is with the UFC.
 
tcarswell;4151101; said:
Melendez takes that fight if he is anything like he was in his last fight.

i have to disagree with you two. I know Josh Neer isn't that good or anything, but Eddie's last fight with him was a huge improvement and he looked tremendous. He's better on his feet than Gil and not far behind anymore on his ground I don't think. After seeing Aoki in his fight w/ Gil, Eddie would knock him out if they fought again. Gil simply exposed Aoki. Don't get me wrong, Shinya is still one of my favorite fighters, but he really needs to go and work with some Dutch strikers.
 
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