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SumoNinja said:
of course you'd say that

I think where we agree is that the technique isn't used with the intent of it being a finishing move

where we disagree is that the worse case injury occurring would be the result of pure luck
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Ive read and heard most arguments since that day. Nothing has changed my mind.

The best analogy that could be used would involve other sports. If i block a shot (a skill) in basketball with the intention of denying an opponent 2 points and my block goes into the other basket and scores me 3 points, id call it luck. Not gloat that i intended to deny my opponent 2 points and happen to score myself. The outcome would be lucky. Same here. He intended to cause pain and alter the game plan with the check(a skill), never rendered his opponent defenseless(luck)


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bad analogy. unless you were playing basketball in the octagon and actually train to block shots in the direction of your hoop. then I wouldn't call that luck either

luck would be if Anderson twisted his ankle 10 feet away from Weidman and couldn't continue.

when someone gets taken down in a fight and while going down they put their arm out to brace the impact and dislocate their elbow. to me, that's not an accident. it's a worse case scenario, but no accident


I guess we can agree to disagree though.
 
ballinouttacntrol said:
Lol, you know what i mean. I doubt theres anything anyone could say about a leg check that can convince me its an offense skill meant to directly win a match
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Not saying they do this in MMA, but back when I took Muay Thai, checking was done with the intention of dislocating the knee or breaking the leg. That's why you pivot your hips just like you do in a roundhouse kick, to put extra power into it. It's the main reason you desensitize your shins by kicking trees, having 2x4's taken to your shins, ect. Now, I was taking it for self defense rather than for a competitive thing, so a few things change. I see some strikes we learned not used in the cage, because their intent is breaking something so I'd imagine the checking is toned down as well.

One thing I've always wondered is why MMA fighters didn't check kicks as much as we did, this fight probably explains why.
 
darth pike said:
Not saying they do this in MMA, but back when I took Muay Thai, checking was done with the intention of dislocating the knee or breaking the leg. That's why you pivot your hips just like you do in a roundhouse kick, to put extra power into it. It's the main reason you desensitize your shins by kicking trees, having 2x4's taken to your shins, ect. Now, I was taking it for self defense rather than for a competitive thing, so a few things change. I see some strikes we learned not used in the cage, because their intent is breaking something so I'd imagine the checking is toned down as well.
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A few more testimonials like this and i may consider opening my closed mind


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darth pike said:
Not saying they do this in MMA, but back when I took Muay Thai, checking was done with the intention of dislocating the knee or breaking the leg. That's why you pivot your hips just like you do in a roundhouse kick, to put extra power into it. It's the main reason you desensitize your shins by kicking trees, having 2x4's taken to your shins, ect. Now, I was taking it for self defense rather than for a competitive thing, so a few things change. I see some strikes we learned not used in the cage, because their intent is breaking something so I'd imagine the checking is toned down as well.

One thing I've always wondered is why MMA fighters didn't check kicks as much as we did, this fight probably explains why.
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good points. eddie obviously hasn't read everything

the reason why checks are under utilized in mma is because mma striking is not as advanced as muay thai or kickboxing. the percentage of elite kickboxers who are really good at leg kicks in mma is very small. a lot of fighters usually just eat the kicks and a lot of strikers usually use leg kicks to set something else up.

in muay thai, the fighters usually don't throw kicks like Anderson did without setting it up because they know that their opponent will check them and they know what can happen.

what we are actually going to see as a result of the silva/Weidman rematch is another step forward in the evolution of striking in mma. this high profile fight will open everyone's eyes. more people will train the check (especially if they know their opponent is really good at low kicks) and more will learn to set up the kick and not just throwing one out without setting it up with footwork and punches first. this kind of evolution was forced in muay thai/kickboxing a long time ago because of these kinds of injuries
 
Did anyone else watch those fights last night? It was a decent card for free fights. But the arena, somewhere in downtown Atlanta, was less than half full. It was pathetic. The main events looked like your typical prelims when people are still arriving, only no one else was coming. There were few cheers, partly due to a lot of unknowns on the card, but mostly due to the lack of fans in attendance.
 
the card was ok. I had read about the poor attendance. it was in joe-ja on a Wednesday and it was an early card so i'm not surprised by the low gate

I think fight of the night should've went to the Hawaiian vs the Turkish guy. that fight was fun to watch, especially the second round. I love ground scrambles like that.
 
I liked the Brunson vs Romero fight. Overall the card was good. Can't complain for the price lol.

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