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rednhot2000@hotmail.com;1623013; said:
i guess in the wild god gives them prepared foods too right? live fish is what nature intended these fish to eat!!! can you argue that? people that keep these fish have a responsibility to them to keep them as natural as possible, because natural is healthy. after god knows how many 100's of thousands of years of evolution you think you can improve its health/diet with your blend of prepared foods...hhahahaha.


Since when was living in a glass box natural? And people feed their gars prepared foods not only because it ensures a balanced diet but most importantly prevents disease that is extremely common in feeder fish. Saving money while doing the so is just a bonus. That being said, I am not saying that live feedings should never happen; your reasons supporting them just seem skewed.

Your ideas are not radical, they're merely incorrect and show your ignorance.
 
after god knows how many 100's of thousands of years of evolution you think you can improve its health/diet with your blend of prepared foods.

Yes and this is a proven fact in the Captive Aquatic husbandry of predator fish .. with Gar BTW it is Millions of years of Evolution :)

if you ask a tiger in a cage if he'd rather be flea bitten and hunting deer or healthier than ever but knawing on "prepared foods" he'd answer you by biting your head off.
maybe you'll get his point!...maybe...
WTF :screwy:

i've fed my gars a wide variety of live foods and on occasion a big crayfish puts up a good fight and scares me by almost maiming my gars, or a frog blows up in mid swallow and presents a difficult meal but such is life and such is the life of gars!

Maybe the life of your abused Gar but certainly not mine....Do you feed yours Gizzard shad??? What about Brook and Inland silversides??? Do you know what gar actually feed on? and do you know that these fish are opportunistic scavengers as much as they are predators? What do you know about gar physiology, food choices and feeding?

My guess given your above series of postings (post whoring) the answers from you to all of these questions would be a big fat no.....

please dont ban me for my radical ideas.
I do not fault you for not knowing what you are talking about.. I suggest further research so you can see the flaws in your poorly proposed and ignorant ideas...
 
rednhot;1623013; said:
i guess in the wild god gives them prepared foods too right? live fish is what nature intended these fish to eat!!! can you argue that? people that keep these fish have a responsibility to them to keep them as natural as possible, because natural is healthy. after god knows how many 100's of thousands of years of evolution you think you can improve its health/diet with your blend of prepared foods...hhahahaha.

what's with the thousands of posts??

firstly, rc604 alrewady said it, how is a glass box "the wild". personally, i have nothing against ppl who use feeders, but you have a few concepts wrong. in the wild, the gars prey aren't kept in horrible living conditions and are actually nutritious, unlike most live foods offered by the lfs...and like the prepared food the ppl are refering to...yes, prepared foods can obviously improve ones diet. it's more nutritious and risk free.

i personally do give my fish feeders from time to time, but their staple diet is prepared foods.
 
*sigh* noobs :nilly:

i dont have the time right now to even touch the above 20 posts. poly i think you set things pretty straight.
 
life is not meant to be survived, but to be lived. gars fed prepared foods are being denied the chance to live out there innate behavior. if you were fed an astronaut diet out of a toothpast tube for the rest of your life and never again have the chance to sink your teeth into a juicy steak, would you still think being fed a perfect diet worth while?
 
sorry about slaming out so many posts, but i feel passionate about this and i want to get my count up too.
 
BTW...all my fish have lived years and years of healthy happy living. yes there is nothing natural about living in a glass box...but if you paid attention to what i said you would have noticed i said "as natural as possible"...DOH! oh yeah and i also said that feeders from a lfs are a small portion or what my gars eat. i take the time to go out in the wild my self and get as many different types of live food for them to enjoy...so nahhh 8'P
 
haha 3 posts only?!?!:D

im not gna say anything...just that the multiple posts are irritating..
 
rednhot;1626482; said:
life is not meant to be survived, but to be lived. gars fed prepared foods are being denied the chance to live out there innate behavior. if you were fed an astronaut diet out of a toothpast tube for the rest of your life and never again have the chance to sink your teeth into a juicy steak, would you still think being fed a perfect diet worth while?

What are you the Gar whisperer.... Do they secretly at night talk to you about what their dreams and desires are? What you are doing and saying is placing anthropomorphic (Human) values on an animal that could care less for our hairless monkey values. Such anthropomorphic thinking is actually contrary to the best interest of the animal in question.

gars fed prepared foods are being denied the chance to live out there innate behavior.
What innate behavior???? Hunting? they do this regardless of what food you use so I'm really not following this...

Again I suggest further research on Lepisosteids so you can see the flaws in your poorly thought out ideas...

sorry about slaming out so many posts, but i feel passionate about this and i want to get my count up too.
STOP IT..... it is very irritating and childish . Make one damn post for one train of thought...

i take the time to go out in the wild my self and get as many different types of live food for them to enjoy.

Oh forget it this is really no longer worth responding to....:screwy:
 
lets not fight over this anymore. this is not the time nor the place for this type of debate. just know that there are people that keep fish to observe and care for them not to dominate and manipulate them.

the more realistic you can keep thier enviroment the the more realistic the behavior you can observe.

we can help new comers to this hobby to better keep these beautiful monsters by give different point of views.

lastly, i was not being anthropomorfic about my predatory fish. if you think you that hairless apes are the only animals that has wants and needs you are the one that needs to find yourself. i'm not saying that animals have feelings or even memories for that matter. but you have to agree that they do have preferences. ask any LMbass fissherman and he'll tell you what he thinks bass desire, hence his favorite lure, or the lastest most popular one that is "gauranteed to catch the biggest"...hahaha.

i guess all i can ask for is for you all to accept that there is more than one way to keep predatory fish, and in return i will do the same!
 
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