Monster grass carp spotted! What to use?

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Destroyer551;3118225; said:
I'll try meat, but I sure hope I can catch this guy, it's was so big when I first saw it I couldn't get over it! Who knew little retention ponds can have such big fish?! But then again no one at this place really keeps thier catch. Also, it's almost like this is the only grass carp in the pond. Never seen one in there and I fish it all the time. The wierd part is, I recall seeing something just like this guy when I was 8. Same one? who knows? And all I want is a picture!


I hope you get the pic. I am not good at fishing I just catch fish if the area I go to is loaded with them and they are biting .

Thus me not catching Florida carp means nothing but more experinced fishermen have told me hard to get them to bite.

They seem to have plenty of food in the ponds,lakes,canals.

Doesnt hurt to try .
 
Mr. Grumpy Gills;3118246; said:
here is a pic of the grasscarp caught out of my dad's pond. We caught them by hand using a seine net as a fence. Smallest one was 32 inches and 22 lbs and the largest was 42 inches and 33 lbs. The grass carp dont usually bite on anything. You could try some carp bait like corn or the carp marshmallows. Your best bet would be to spear it or use a bow and arrow. But have another person to help hold on, these fish have explosive power.
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Do you eat them?

Those are bigger than the ones in my area canals . To think I thought at 2 ft I had discovered a monster lol.
 
Mr. Grumpy Gills;3118246; said:
here is a pic of the grasscarp caught out of my dad's pond. We caught them by hand using a seine net as a fence. Smallest one was 32 inches and 22 lbs and the largest was 42 inches and 33 lbs. The grass carp dont usually bite on anything. You could try some carp bait like corn or the carp marshmallows. Your best bet would be to spear it or use a bow and arrow. But have another person to help hold on, these fish have explosive power.
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That's encouraging. Tried corn, works good for common carp but this guy ignored it completly. It's illegal to spear fish and shoot them with arrows on private property here. I'll have to try some spam though, who knows?
Could be his favorite food.
 
Louie;3118248; said:
I hope you get the pic. I am not good at fishing I just catch fish if the area I go to is loaded with them and they are biting .

Thus me not catching Florida carp means nothing but more experinced fishermen have told me hard to get them to bite.

They seem to have plenty of food in the ponds,lakes,canals.

Doesnt hurt to try .


I never give up when It comes to fishing.
I spent weeks waiting for the 9 pound bass I caught on my other post to come along and bite. As long as I know he's there, he'll be in my camera eventually. :D
 
try a little pre baiting and set a trap to catch this monster
grass carp eat alot of algae and weed so it might not be used to bait or recognise it as food so pre baiting can work a treat

go to the pond once a day for say a week or 2 and each time you go down throw in small cubes of spam (a few handfuls at a time) but make sure they always go on the same spot but dont try fishing for it yet... after about a week it should condition the fish to feed in that area on the bait your using
.... then when youve got it feeding confidently on your spot its fishing time
drop in your baited rig and you should bank your monster

better still pre bait a spot where you can see the bottom so you know for sure he's eating it

carp can be pretty shy so keep quiet and out of sight and you should have him mate

good luck :)
 
Thanks, I'll try it out. The water is clear, you can see 4-5 feet deep so I can seen him whenever its sunny and not to windy out, I'll have to do this in the morning though, or else the bluegill will be up and about and will steal Mr. Grass's breakfast.
 
An old man that I know fish's for carp alot and actually eats them. The bait he uses is a dough ball. It is made by mixing a can of spinach with wheates cereal. He puts the hole can of spinach in a bowl after draining it. And then takes the box of cereal and crushes it up pretty fine and then keeps adding the cereal to the spinach and neading the mix until it gets doughy. I do not have any exact measurements for you on ingrediants. But go slow because if you get to much cereal in there the mixture will not stay on the hook at all. So mix it up until it is sticky but still wet and forms a ball easely. He uses treble hooks cause they hold the balled up bait better. --------Other than that they only sure thing bait i know of is a large treble hook. Which is my favorite. Also do not expect the fish to go right for the bait. It will take a long time. Carp are pretty smart despite there looks.
 
Well You cant kill grass carp in Florida as they are protected.
 
Grass carp fishing has its pros and cons


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Fly fisherman Andy Mill holds a grass carp, which are not illegal to catch but must be released immediately. Keeping the fish can result in fines. ADRIAN GRAY






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By SUSAN COCKING

scocking@MiamiHerald.com

Andy Mill, retired host of a cable television fishing show, fly-fishing tournament champion and Olympic skier, kneels on a dirty asphalt path beside a canal that runs east-west between Griffin Road and Orange Drive in Davie.
It's hard to cast a fly rod from the kneeling position, but this Boca Raton angler does it anyway because it's important not to be spotted by his ultrasensitive quarry.
Mill throws his line in a perfectly tight loop so that the fly alights beneath a broad, leafy ficus tree. The fly, a tiny cork ball painted cherries-jubilee red with Avon nail polish, bobs briefly on the canal's riffled surface. Suddenly, a wake foams up from nowhere and the fly disappears as Mill's rod bends into a semicircle.
After a brief battle, Mill brings his quarry up to the edge of the steep bank -- a 17-pound grass carp that is quickly photographed and released.
''Where else can you catch a fish of that size on dry flies -- especially in an urban area,'' Mill says happily. ``You could potentially catch 40-pound fish in here.''
APPEALING COLOR
Mill and the fishing guide/author who tied the successful fly, Steve Kantner, who also is known as the ''Land Captain,'' popularized South Florida's recreational grass carp fishery in a cable TV show about 15 years ago. Kantner discovered that the vegetarian fish love to eat the magenta-colored berries that fall from ficus trees, usually in late spring and early summer.
''Like kids hanging under a Pez machine,'' Kantner said.
He sat down at his fly-tying table at home in Fort Lauderdale and fashioned fake ficus berries out of spun deer hair. Then he took Mill with him to use the new flies along Broward's C-11 canal. Both of these expert fly casters caught and released numerous carp for the cameras. Mill said that of all the shows he produced from around the world, that episode drew the most comments from viewers.
But not everyone is happy about it -- especially officials of the South Florida Water Management District, which stocks grass carp in Miami-Dade and Broward canals for flood control.
''I know people recreate with these fish, but go fish for a cichlid instead,'' said Ellen Donlan, an environmental scientist who stocks grass carp for the water district. ``I want these fish to eat weeds. That's what the district pays for them for.''
Fishing for grass carp is not illegal, but they must be released immediately and unharmed, according to the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission. Keeping fish can result in fines.
Donlan says anglers must use extreme caution when taking grass carp off the hook because picking them up by the mouth or using a Boga-Grip can break the jaw and potentially kill them.
''Anything that stresses them out, they'll do that less munching [of weeds],'' she said.
The water district began using the native Asian fish for weed control in 1987, stocking an average of 30,000 to 40,000 per year, according to Donlan, because they are more cost-effective than using herbicides or mechanical weed-eaters.
THAT'S A BIG CARP
The district buys 10- to 12-inch fish in bulk from an Arkansas fish farm for about $3 apiece that have been genetically modified to be sterile, or triploid, so they don't overpopulate waterways.
She said water control structures keep them from wandering where they don't belong.
The largest grass carp known to have been caught in Florida was 15 years old, 56 inches long, and weighed 75 pounds. In China, they can grow much larger.
Fred Ade, a Cooper City recreational angler, said he once released a grass carp from the C-11 that weighed 42 pounds, 7 ounces.
He often fishes with a 4-weight fly rod and uses Styrofoam strike indicators painted with red magic marker to trick the fish.
''They're the second-smartest fish in the canal,'' Ade said. ``The first is tarpon.''
Adrian Gray, who works for the International Game Fish Association in Dania Beach, recently took a couple hours off from work to catch and release his first grass carp with Mill and Kantner. Using a 6-weight fly rod with 10-pound tippet and one of Kantner's cork-ball ficus berries, Gray released one estimated at 10 to 12 pounds.
Said Gray: ``That was neat.''
 
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