Monster H. Aimara . Biggest in N.America!
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I agree with Ichthy, you guys are going overboard on your assesment of Samurai_h. All he said was that based on his experience with Hoplias (which is extensive) the fish pictured did not fit the traditional shape, dimension, etc. of a Hoplias that large. I also think he mistook which picture was of the fish in question. Coupled with his poor English it came across wrong. I think later in the thread he tried to explain this if you took the time to read it all.
Peanut_Power said:Sad thing is, profit in mind, not the hobbyist...
You couldn't be further from the truth. George took a TREMENDOUS risk to bring in this fish into the states for us. This is probably the worst investment he ever made. The chances of him taking a complete loss for a fish this size was extremely high. Everyone knows that the Vz wholesaler is charging blood for these animals. I think this fish is dirt cheap relatively speaking. I know for a fact that George mis-calculated the animals when he quoted his price initially. However, that price for "pre-payment" Pre-payment meant that he doesn't need to use his money to make profit so that he could make just a tiny bit and still be happy. Now that he has invested his money as a whole, I'm sure he will want what is a fair mark-up for him to take the risk and to tie up his cash like this. I say $100 an inch sounds fair
dookie said:You couldn't be further from the truth. George took a TREMENDOUS risk to bring in this fish into the states for us. This is probably the worst investment he ever made. The chances of him taking a complete loss for a fish this size was extremely high. Everyone knows that the Vz wholesaler is charging blood for these animals. I think this fish is dirt cheap relatively speaking. I know for a fact that George mis-calculated the animals when he quoted his price initially. However, that price for "pre-payment" Pre-payment meant that he doesn't need to use his money to make profit so that he could make just a tiny bit and still be happy. Now that he has invested his money as a whole, I'm sure he will want what is a fair mark-up for him to take the risk and to tie up his cash like this. I say $100 an inch sounds fair
I agree with this assesment. Without people like George that are willing to take a risk we wouldn't see shiat in the U.S. All the cool stuff goes to Japan, then Europe. U.S. hobbyists are known for being a cheap bunch of bastards. Petty as well... this thread doesn't help that image.
ok i am beyond lost here
who is this george fella?
and what makes this fish so damn special, besdie the fact that its ]V[ONSTER!!!
who is this george fella?
and what makes this fish so damn special, besdie the fact that its ]V[ONSTER!!!
Peanut_Power said:Sad thing is, profit in mind, not the hobbyist...
PP,
Sorry but I have to agree on them on that one. George clearly did not bring that fish into the USA for profit. You're still in the "getting small fish only shipped" level. Once you start looking for Monster fish already at Monster sizes like I do, you willl realize soon that:
1.) Bigger the fish, the more chance of it dying in transit. So much much higher risks
2.) Bigger the fish, the bigger the price tag.
3.) Bigger the fish, the bigger the box and the more water is needed. I've paid air cargo charges for having big fish shipped from within the USA only and it is expensive. I can't imagine what it would costs for shipping alone to get that Monster landed here in the USA.
4.) Rising fuel costs, Import paper work and Inspection fees are more things to remember.
5.) You have to take into accountability that George must have spent a lot of time searching for a specimen this size.
So taking all that into cosideration, Let's speculate saying George's landed cost is $1250. It's pretty normal for people in the trade to do the usual 100% mark up. Also remember that George also has to feed the fish and most probably house it in a tank on its own, leaving him with less tank space available to put more fish for him to sell and not to forget......George has a store and has to pay rent and staff's paychecks as well. Did I mention utility bills as well?
So bringing this in for profit??? I think not........
So please before you make a comment like that. Do think it over.
