My aquarium set ups /RMAFSw/TDS

[jcardona1]

it is really hard to take this 'system' that 'controls' water parameters seriously. with so much bad information in your posts, i have lost the little faith i had in your product. and i realize you're trying to patent this thing, but if you can't even answer some basic questions as to how the 'system' works, you're wasting your time here. nobody will take you seriously.

at this point, you have absolutely NOTHING to back up what you say your product can do. hell, we haven't even seen a picture of what the damn 'system' looks like

 

[jcardona1]

well i found a pic of the mysterious system by the way even the spelling on your website is horrible. you would think you'd take a little more time on your official website. really man? "breading fish"?

http://www.sassyfishwater.com/index.php

The RMAFS will help control osmoregulation of the freshwater fish thru TDS of the water. Here I will be talking about one thing SALT. Salt controls the osmotic pressure of the freshwater fish. Freshwater fish drink very little to no water, they get the water they need thru osmosis. Water greatly influences the osmotic pressure and the metabolism of the freshwater fish and plants. This influence comes from the dissolved calcium and magnesium salts, water with a calcium and magnesium salt content is referred to as hardwater, and a low content as soft. It is important to know what water the freshwater fish was taken. Freshwater fishs body salt content must remain higher than that of the surrounding water in order for them to receive and maintain the water they need, (osmosis). The gills actively uptake salt from the environment by the use of mitochondria - rich cells. Water will diffuse into the fish, influencing the blood calcium level of the fish. If osmotic pressure is interfered with affecting metabolism of the fish. The fish may become inactive and stop eating.

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[zennzzo]

Well I couldn't find anything on fish Dr.'s

but I did find this on the sassypisswater site

Funny...I have that exact dual input TDS meter, and the componentry of an RO unit and what looks to be a manual mixing chamber...
So if I'm correct to assume, there is nothing there that automatically mixes the RO water with "wastewater" to achive a desired TDS, this is a manually adjusted system? What if the incoming is 7.0Ph and 150ppm TDS How are you going to achive an 8.2 Ph with 197ppm TDS?
Hardly a set it and forget it type system...My incoming TDS changes from the tap to much to have to readjust manually.

You should have just posted the picture and been done with it. It doesn't take a genius to tell you that alot of people are using the same components to achieve these results. They are implimented into some of the auto waterchangers/drip systems.
What you don't see in the picture is the overflow system, that allows for water to go to waste. I know it cannot be a recirculating system, because you are not allowing for Pheromones and other organics to be flushed from the system...(why weekly waterchanges are so important and necessary)

I'm sure when you stated that the unit should cost 400.00 you did so knowing the cost of the components in the above pic can be had at 200bux retail, tops!

A shadow box with a pegboard background doesn't require engineering or 100K to get tooling and 25 samples.

See how that works...maybe you've heard of this one...

A thousand pictures is worth alot of words...
or
Thousands of words come from pictures?
or
Pictures talk too much?
or
my
favorite...

"A picture is worth a thousand words" .. .. .. ala iRobot

Keep in mind a patent is only as good as you can enforce...
If your product is a hot seller, be absolutely sure there are people out there that are going to copy it, change it just enough, and then bring it to market so fast you'll think it was their idea...
And while you try to tie it up in probate, they'll have sold enough of it and made all the money on it...then when you get a judgement on a patent infringment, they'll be sipping margaritas with those cool little umbrellas on a tropical beach much nearer to the equator that Mi...

Hows that for Bursting your BooBles?

 

[jcardona1]

^ the only thing he has from Fish Doctors is a BS testimonial / letter of recommendation. still doesnt prove squat

 

[Clay]

You quoted a bit from wikipedia, but didn't give them credit. Just sayin some of the verbage is the same.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osmoregulation

From the above article:
Osmoregulation is the active regulation of the osmotic pressure of an organism's fluids to maintain the homeostasis of the organism's water content; that is it keeps the organism's fluids from becoming too diluted or too concentrated. Osmotic pressure is a measure of the tendency of water to move into one solution from another by osmosis. The higher the osmotic pressure of a solution the more water wants to move into the solution. Pressure must be exerted on the hypertonic side of a selectively-permeable membrane to prevent diffusion of water by osmosis from the side containing pure water.
Organisms in both aquatic and terrestrial environments must maintain the right concentration of solutes and amount of water in their body fluids; this involves excretion: getting rid of metabolic wastes and other substances such as hormones that would be toxic if allowed to accumulate in the blood via organs such as the skin and the kidneys; keeping the amount of water and dissolved solutes in balance is referred to as osmoregulation.


From your site:
http://www.sassyfishwater.com/Osmoregulation-and-Metabolic.php
Osmoregulation; is the active regulation of the Osmotic Pressure of the organisms fluids to maintain the Homeostasis of the organisms water content; that is it keeps the organisms fluid from becoming to dilute or to concentrated. Osmotic Pressure is a measure of the tendency of water to move into one solution from another by osmosis. The higher the Osmotic Pressure of a solution the more water wants to move into the solution. Pressure must be exerted on the hypertonic side of a selectivety- permeable membrane to prevent diffusion of water by osmosis from the side containing pure water.

Organisms in both aquatic and terrestrial environments must maintain the right concentration of solutes and amount of water in their body fluid; this involves excretion, getting rid of metabolic wastes and other substances such as hormones that would be toxic if allowed to accumulate in the blood via organs such as skin and kidneys , keeping the amount of water and dissolved solute in balance is referred to as osmoregulation.

 

[sassyfishwater]

Well I couldn't find anything on fish Dr.'s
View attachment 519703
but I did find this on the sassypisswater site
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Funny...I have that exact dual input TDS meter, and the componentry of an RO unit and what looks to be a manual mixing chamber...
So if I'm correct to assume, there is nothing there that automatically mixes the RO water with "wastewater" to achive a desired TDS, this is a manually adjusted system? What if the incoming is 7.0Ph and 150ppm TDS How are you going to achive an 8.2 Ph with 197ppm TDS?
Hardly a set it and forget it type system...My incoming TDS changes from the tap to much to have to readjust manually.

You should have just posted the picture and been done with it. It doesn't take a genius to tell you that alot of people are using the same components to achieve these results. They are implimented into some of the auto waterchangers/drip systems.
What you don't see in the picture is the overflow system, that allows for water to go to waste. I know it cannot be a recirculating system, because you are not allowing for Pheromones and other organics to be flushed from the system...(why weekly waterchanges are so important and necessary)

I'm sure when you stated that the unit should cost 400.00 you did so knowing the cost of the components in the above pic can be had at 200bux retail, tops!

A shadow box with a pegboard background doesn't require engineering or 100K to get tooling and 25 samples.

See how that works...maybe you've heard of this one...

A thousand pictures is worth alot of words...
or
Thousands of words come from pictures?
or
Pictures talk too much?
or
my
favorite...

"A picture is worth a thousand words" .. .. .. ala iRobot

Keep in mind a patent is only as good as you can enforce...
If your product is a hot seller, be absolutely sure there are people out there that are going to copy it, change it just enough, and then bring it to market so fast you'll think it was their idea...
And while you try to tie it up in probate, they'll have sold enough of it and made all the money on it...then when you get a judgement on a patent infringment, they'll be sipping margaritas with those cool little umbrellas on a tropical beach much nearer to the equator that Mi...

Hows that for Bursting your BooBles?

Your faxs on the system are totaly wrong. The TDS meter monitors the water, if its such a bad meter why are you using it. The TDS has nothing to do with how the system works. And by reading what you wrote you don't either thats so far off it's not funny another no it all who knows everything without any facts.
The wastewater is delt with in 2 different ways within the system there
no it all.
As you so kindly stated if a patent infringment takes place I will Know where to look.
I am not going to come down to your level and undermine another person thats just a liittle to childish for me.
I don't recall giving you permission to copy the photo's and the be used in a vindicative manor and violate another persons web site.


































































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[jcardona1]

has nothing to do with how the system works. And by reading what you wrote you don't either thats so far off it's not funny another no it all who knows everything without any facts.

...there [k]no[w] it all.

let me see if i got this right. you REFUSE time and again to share any information on how the system works, yet you insult people who don't understand how it works? that has got to be the biggest crock ive ever read.

 

[CA-Delta]

This is starting to look like my community tank at feeding time.

 

[jcardona1]

The TDS has nothing to do with how the system works.

thats funny, your website says otherwise. the TDS meter seems like an integral part of your system

TDS, meter reads the Total Dissolved Solids in the water that is supplyed to the system and reads the water supplyed to the aquarium in ppm making aquarium regulation easy.

 

[sassyfishwater]

You quoted a bit from wikipedia, but didn't give them credit. Just sayin some of the verbage is the same.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osmoregulation

From the above article:
Osmoregulation is the active regulation of the osmotic pressure of an organism's fluids to maintain the homeostasis of the organism's water content; that is it keeps the organism's fluids from becoming too diluted or too concentrated. Osmotic pressure is a measure of the tendency of water to move into one solution from another by osmosis. The higher the osmotic pressure of a solution the more water wants to move into the solution. Pressure must be exerted on the hypertonic side of a selectively-permeable membrane to prevent diffusion of water by osmosis from the side containing pure water.
Organisms in both aquatic and terrestrial environments must maintain the right concentration of solutes and amount of water in their body fluids; this involves excretion: getting rid of metabolic wastes and other substances such as hormones that would be toxic if allowed to accumulate in the blood via organs such as the skin and the kidneys; keeping the amount of water and dissolved solutes in balance is referred to as osmoregulation.


From your site:
http://www.sassyfishwater.com/Osmoregulation-and-Metabolic.php
Osmoregulation; is the active regulation of the Osmotic Pressure of the organisms fluids to maintain the Homeostasis of the organisms water content; that is it keeps the organisms fluid from becoming to dilute or to concentrated. Osmotic Pressure is a measure of the tendency of water to move into one solution from another by osmosis. The higher the Osmotic Pressure of a solution the more water wants to move into the solution. Pressure must be exerted on the hypertonic side of a selectivety- permeable membrane to prevent diffusion of water by osmosis from the side containing pure water.

Organisms in both aquatic and terrestrial environments must maintain the right concentration of solutes and amount of water in their body fluid; this involves excretion, getting rid of metabolic wastes and other substances such as hormones that would be toxic if allowed to accumulate in the blood via organs such as skin and kidneys , keeping the amount of water and dissolved solute in balance is referred to as osmoregulation.

So sorry Clay web site not complete yet a new site