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Damn DB, this is horrible. i hope you still have your adults to rebuild. i couldnt believe the news when i heard. i feel for you buddy.
 
Things will get better they say.......

It'll pass they say.....

These fish are from 2 separate tanks. Both entirely different then the tank all the pups died in.

I can't even say I have a favorite fish or ray anymore cause all my favorites are dead.

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Dude that is terrible! The tiger looked like it got mauled??? :(
 
I was hoping you would post the dorado but didn't want to ask. Shame. Which atf was that? Not the one with the pearl correct?
 
^ Nope, one with the Pearl is bigger, a bit thicker.

Atf did get mauled. By me. Trying to get it out from behind a 360 that has (3) 40s above it, and a 240 below it. The thing got out, landed behind the tank and moving the tank would suck bad. 1st attempt - shopvac. LOL. Not gonna work. At all. I then tried a caveman spear with a steak knife, before resorting to removing the basement window and fishing him out from behind the tank, with a fishing pole, which string got cut by it's teeth first time around. So after a few snags later I was able to pull it up. Most frustrating fishing I've done in a while.

Dat Tiger - no, neither of these fish came from systems tied to or even on the same floor as the problamatic pup tank - both fish were from separate systems of each other as well.
 
^ Nope, one with the Pearl is bigger, a bit thicker.

Atf did get mauled. By me. Trying to get it out from behind a 360 that has (3) 40s above it, and a 240 below it. The thing got out, landed behind the tank and moving the tank would suck bad. 1st attempt - shopvac. LOL. Not gonna work. At all. I then tried a caveman spear with a steak knife, before resorting to removing the basement window and fishing him out from behind the tank, with a fishing pole, which string got cut by it's teeth first time around. So after a few snags later I was able to pull it up. Most frustrating fishing I've done in a while.

Dat Tiger - no, neither of these fish came from systems tied to or even on the same floor as the problamatic pup tank - both fish were from separate systems of each other as well.
That really is not good. I hope from here it goes better
 
My question is, how do you think it was/is bacterial? Don't you run like a rediculous amount of UV in your setups? You would think that amount of sterilization would destroy any sort of bacterial attack. Are the bulbs old?
Did anything change recently besides the addition of the new rays? Your experiencing losses in multiple systems now?
 
My question is, how do you think it was/is bacterial? Don't you run like a rediculous amount of UV in your setups? You would think that amount of sterilization would destroy any sort of bacterial attack. Are the bulbs old?
Did anything change recently besides the addition of the new rays? Your experiencing losses in multiple systems now?

This a great question. From some quick research it seems that UV will not kill all pathogens. It will kill 100 percent of most free floating pathogens with the correct UV to flow ratio but does not kill some free floating eggs nor pathogens that attach to the animals.

So a UV does not remove the risk from pathogens but only reduces the risk of pathogens harming the animals.

My question is , is a UV even worth it as it seems it does not win against these serious pathogens that actually kill the rays but maybe only eliminates less serious pathogens that even with out a UV might not do serious harm when proper husbandry is maintained?
 
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