My Red Texas project
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+1 to both these comments
Kevin I'm not comparing anything here but fish. I was speaking on purpose, I'm unaware of anyone perceiving themselves as being "better" or winning". You were on point with "feeding your family through breeding RTs". We all have different perceptions of what we or others have done to achieve actual Red RTs. I go back to my bicycles vs motorcycles analogy. I won't put you down for your love of your fish or actions toward breeding them.
And Fried you are correct with conversing respectfully. There are a handful of people on this site that talk as if they are a fish God of some sort.
Hey Aquatic, the guy obviously doesn't want your advice lol. Let the guy be. Most "RT Projects" go south for a reason.
@Kevin, hey man it's your fish bro. Do whatever you want with them but some of the people on this forum have tried doing what you're doing and never churned out anything worthwhile. We're just trying to help.
Good luck with your fish though!
Heres some advice for anyone who has breeding aspirations after seeing this thread. When selecting your breeders go with a male with larger pearls. Larger pearls = more area of the body is pearled and will increase your odds of having heavily pearled fry. Pearl inheritance is crazy when it comes to tex hybrids, you can get half scale, carpintis style (I call them popcorn shaped, but if you don't understand that you are welcome to stand in the corner and go duh dur while drooling on yourself), double pearled, net pearl, etc. If a texas hybrid is barely pearled it's no good lol. If using a parrot female get ahold of the nicest and reddest you can find. Make sure the face doesn't have weird angles and dips because that will pass down to fry in various ways. Go kkp all the way.
Selecting grow outs from your first generation is the easiest thing. Focus only on the fish that have good pearl coverage. Then from your nicely pearled fry you will hope to have a female fader to move onto the next step... I have tried a few f1 males and it's always the same heartbreak of infertility. I have seen a thread on here where the breeder said he wasn't worried about pearls he was more concerned with color in that generation and that idea is just another set back. Ultimately you are trying to get every generation to have both heavy pearl and fading genetics so early on you don't want to sacrifice one for the other, you have accomplished nothing. The color of the faders is largely unpredictable anyways. You can use the reddest kkp there is and you will still get fade shades from pale yellow to deep red and everything in between. You still want to use the reddest fish just to ensure that color is present genetically but I would take a heavily pearled yellow "rt" over a pearl less red "rt" any day. I have also found that the earlier the fade the lighter the tone will be.
I don't understand the hostile response to my first reply. I even ended my first post with the encouraging remark of "neat fish but you can do better". Why the negative response to some first hand experience? You titled your thread "red texas project" so I assumed guiding advice would be appreciated. If you had titled your thread "random ugly long faced barely pearled pale fader project" I wouldn't have said anything but that's not what you titled the thread. I'm wondering how much you paid Butthurt for the pair? You both seem pretty defensive about them. Maybe he pumped you full of bs when he sold them, I wouldn't have used either fish in a "red texas" project.
Carry on
Selecting grow outs from your first generation is the easiest thing. Focus only on the fish that have good pearl coverage. Then from your nicely pearled fry you will hope to have a female fader to move onto the next step... I have tried a few f1 males and it's always the same heartbreak of infertility. I have seen a thread on here where the breeder said he wasn't worried about pearls he was more concerned with color in that generation and that idea is just another set back. Ultimately you are trying to get every generation to have both heavy pearl and fading genetics so early on you don't want to sacrifice one for the other, you have accomplished nothing. The color of the faders is largely unpredictable anyways. You can use the reddest kkp there is and you will still get fade shades from pale yellow to deep red and everything in between. You still want to use the reddest fish just to ensure that color is present genetically but I would take a heavily pearled yellow "rt" over a pearl less red "rt" any day. I have also found that the earlier the fade the lighter the tone will be.
I don't understand the hostile response to my first reply. I even ended my first post with the encouraging remark of "neat fish but you can do better". Why the negative response to some first hand experience? You titled your thread "red texas project" so I assumed guiding advice would be appreciated. If you had titled your thread "random ugly long faced barely pearled pale fader project" I wouldn't have said anything but that's not what you titled the thread. I'm wondering how much you paid Butthurt for the pair? You both seem pretty defensive about them. Maybe he pumped you full of bs when he sold them, I wouldn't have used either fish in a "red texas" project.
Carry on
Based on what you last said Aggression
I have 2 first gen males I'm trying now. Both happen to be the orangest and most pearled too.
I did choose one due to his color.
I have 2 first gen males I'm trying now. Both happen to be the orangest and most pearled too.
I did choose one due to his color.
Hey
No need to try and take shots at the ops fish. That's pretty far from offering advice or trying to help. I'm not sure what your trying to accomplish by calling me names. That's pretty weak. You never breed anything special & and the helpfully advice you offer is not your own experience-your just reposting things you hear or read from real breeders who have had success. You act like some guru & only take away from threads you comment on. The problem with anonymous site like this is they have fake ass gangsters like you. Maybe I'm wrong - You love it here because you act ways & post things you are far to scared to say to someone's face or be held responsible for.
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Fake gangster like me? lol. Like I said first hand experience. You and you friend here went dbag for no reason so you get it back and then cry about it? Wahh. There is alot of dumb crap posted here and people love to get called on it. I do the same face to face.
Sorry if I insulted your fish kevin. **grabs acoustic guitar and plays "every fish is special"**
Sorry if I insulted your fish kevin. **grabs acoustic guitar and plays "every fish is special"**
Man you're such a blowhard. Haha-What experience are you talking about? Show some of the nice fish you created or are working on. How did you create "popcorn" pearls? Post some of that or maybe post a link to one of your breeding projects. That's all
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I'd like to see links to his successfully bred fish, that he also raised.
(Not taking sides just wants to see an example instead of reading about it)
(Not taking sides just wants to see an example instead of reading about it)
http://flowerhornrusforum.com/topic/9134719/1/#new
Here's like 1 picture in this thread. From a different forum. From when I got fed up with the dumb crap in this section of this forum. Don't have alot of pics of these, I only ever take pics when I'm ready to sell. I've only shipped 6 fish all of 2014 and sold most locally. I will probably make a breeding blog or something instead of post on mfk. There is a big lack of common sense here (where breeding is concerned) and the fact that people vocally doubt somebodies experience (4-5 years after the fact) is insane. New members put on your plastic sheriff badges and go right into disrespecting people trying to help you along. This forum is rolling backwards not forwards and it's a bummer to me. Oh well.
Here's like 1 picture in this thread. From a different forum. From when I got fed up with the dumb crap in this section of this forum. Don't have alot of pics of these, I only ever take pics when I'm ready to sell. I've only shipped 6 fish all of 2014 and sold most locally. I will probably make a breeding blog or something instead of post on mfk. There is a big lack of common sense here (where breeding is concerned) and the fact that people vocally doubt somebodies experience (4-5 years after the fact) is insane. New members put on your plastic sheriff badges and go right into disrespecting people trying to help you along. This forum is rolling backwards not forwards and it's a bummer to me. Oh well.
