My stingray died, I don't know why and I feel like complete garbage.. PLEASE HELP

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1st: Filtration is lacking! Please do tell us what filters you're actually using. You'd be lucky to even be hitting the minimum needed with a lighter stock.

2nd: Your temps are too high. You'd also be surprised at the amount the O2 that is depleted at those temps

Also, you seem to know everything already. Any advice given to you is met with a quick excuse as why "it can't be". From your responses. You should do a bit more research before you purchase your next fish.


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I have two 70 gallon tetra filters and a 100 gallon fluval canister filter. Do you mean filter media? And While I'm on rambling here I would like to ask everyone how I can improve my filtration to house a stingray. Don't worry, I won't plan on getting another ray until I know my filtration is good enough for a ray. I might not have space for a large sump though... I know how to meet with basic care needs with these fish but it finally appears to me I'm retarded when it comes to filtration XD
 
If its a good gph you can do a DIY spray bar that houses bio media like I did. Same size tank as you have. I have WAY more stock and it works great. Cost 30 bucks. I have about 3.5 gallons of bio balls in mine and sintered glass media. About 4 liters.


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Aren't spray bars mainly used for oxygenating the water more? Did you make yours in a way where It works in a way slightly similar to a sump? You might have to be patient with me because I'm clueless on spray bars and how they work. And where would you place it? hanging off the back or on top? And this helps lower your bioload? Thanks for your input!
 
If its a good gph you can do a DIY spray bar that houses bio media like I did. Same size tank as you have. I have WAY more stock and it works great. Cost 30 bucks. I have about 3.5 gallons of bio balls in mine and sintered glass media. About 4 liters.


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That is cool in all my screwing around trying to pack more media into a filter.... I never thought of this
 
Aren't spray bars mainly used for oxygenating the water more? Did you make yours in a way where It works in a way slightly similar to a sump? You might have to be patient with me because I'm clueless on spray bars and how they work. And where would you place it? hanging off the back or on top? And this helps lower your bioload? Thanks for your input!

Your bio load will stay the same when you add more media it is more surface area for you good bacteria to grow on and thrive. No that would work more like a canister filter since it is completely sealed off. Even a 40 gallon breader packed with media under your tank with a good pump like a lifegard 5000 would be better then canisters imo I would think know if you are handy at diy it should cost around 350.
The big spray bar would be the cheapest way to go but you still are at the bottom end of your turn over rate
 
Never buy rays again lol


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What do you know? Maybe misguided but at least OP has shown he cares, with research and bumping up his setup, like all of us have had and continue to do, he will be just fine keeping rays because he has the willingness to provide a good environment, just doesn't have it/know enough right now. Btw, cool fish in the avatar, like the scales.

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Your bio load will stay the same when you add more media it is more surface area for you good bacteria to grow on and thrive. No that would work more like a canister filter since it is completely sealed off. Even a 40 gallon breader packed with media under your tank with a good pump like a lifegard 5000 would be better then canisters imo I would think know if you are handy at diy it should cost around 350.
The big spray bar would be the cheapest way to go but you still are at the bottom end of your turn over rate

As far as I know from advice on here. Turnover is mostly for mechanical filtration. I have been told that for biological low flow can be better if the media has a long enough contact time with the water.

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Yes that is true but they produce a lot of waste and you want to catch as much as you can in the mechanical and not have it sitting in the tank and clean your filters regularly. Believe me if you have rays you want a higher turnover rate. Bacteria will grow fine in a high flow rate tank.
 
Thanks so much everyone for your support! But what other media should I add to my canister and possibly the top filters? And what's the best way to increase my turnover rate?
 
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