I've always wanted these guys! I've been looking for a group for a couple years now, but they are no where in socal for some reason. You guys were talking about Odoes with this sp. before, my Odoe seems very timid and peaceful so would that be an exception? My Odoe only has eaten live blackworms and cut up market shrimp since 3 inches so I don't think he'll go after another fish. Don't mean to derail, but I've been trying to build this stock for a while and all of a sudden I read this. This is a great thread though! I'm subscribing for some nice updates 
