Need a "gill sample" can you guys help?

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Yup, nothing but a bunch of ASSumptions.

Matt, you remember not long ago my rays dying off, cause you were one of the D bags that had plenty to say about it didn't you?

I do have a pretty sweet med cabinet. Always have. Hell I even stock enough to help out other hobbyists. Just ask Scott (Skynoch) about overnighting him big bottles of Binox for his sick rays when he couldn't get any. I'll even include a current pic for you in case I might have anything you need. I believe in the old saying an ounce (or in this case kilo lol) of prevention is worth a pound of cure. BUT, guess what? I've never treated anything here since the quinine sulfate experience you were referring to 2 YEARS ago. Right before the 750 went up and moving bed filters were built. Guess what kind of trouble I've had since? Stress from breeding attempts. I've lost females that were preggo and a few pups since the quinine incident where I lost a pair of juvie rays (one was the last male I've lost here). Just cause I'm prepared in case I need meds sure as hell doesn't mean I use them. ;) I take that back, I did do a prazi treatment on the 750 at one point, found the reactors hated it, but then felt better about adding the Falks to it.

Doesn't seem you have any good uncommonly known info to offer. We all know pups don't like drips, my pup tank doesn't have one, and I've already spilled the beans about "adding meds to my water all the time"

I appreciate you acknowledging killing your rays with meds, however I would never throw that back at you in a negative way. I have more respect for ANY fellow ray keeper then that. When I added quinine it was under the advisement of someone knowing much more then I do about rays. Maybe IF I actually had a fat enough head to think I know everything about rays and meds I wouldn't have done it, but that's not the kind of person I am.

I've been heckled over giving rays Prazi orally before via injecting nightcrawlers, I've treated this way for probably 4 years or so, but it seems wether you medicate, don't medicate, drip, or no drip, moving bed, pot scrubbies, rings, it really doesn't matter, what works for one won't work for others, and in fact many things will work in many ways, but here it just seems like a big case of opinion, arrogant people that enjoy arguing about being right, rather then discussing to learn.

Kind of funny that my bad luck really only seems to surround Marbles though doesn't it?

I really do appreciate all the ironic insight about meds though, just hit me up if you'd like to buy some of mine. Sounds like you might use them before I do.

I appreciate the motivational pep talk! Maybe everything will go smoothly from now on....... :ROFL:

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Not everybody has issues using drippers with smaller rays. It's not that pups don't like drippers ,it's pups don't like retards that don't know how to use drippers . Not just pups rays in general .

If its pretty basic knowledge that everybody knows why does it continue. There's no one way to do things like alot of people think , I realize this ,everybody does things different but if your not able to adapt And correct issues id suggest not keeping them. Something pretty basic that everybody knows seems to be forgotten or unknown I'm thinking. Or not enough attention to details . Nobody knows your own system and water as your self your the master of your kingdom I wish you better fortune and would really like to stop the stabbing at each other ,
But on another note some people including myself learn from these sort of bickering threads while others couldn't be bothered by it or call it to dramatic .

I hope this crap gets better for you and your able to bring light to this .any ******** can say what he or she thinks it maybe but over a forum it's rubbish. Your the only one that holds that answer. I've been starting to realize threads and posts like this maybe a waste of brain power .
I've created posts before while having issues and get my brain raped by retarded ideas than I start getting demented thoughts that my rays are dying ect .. And so on so fourth .

We can stab ideas and solutions at each other . No point .
Figure your shiet out correct it and enjoy ray keeping.




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Are all the marbles you've had problems with the same genetics?
Nothing maybe wrong .

I have raised a group of nice geo cichlids that were captive bred . All of them grow cancer tumors out of the right fin in the same spot while never effecting anything else. Just a terrible mix of genetics is the cause .


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