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depending on the dimensions, i'd say at least 20... i'd probably start with 30
 
One question.
Have you ever seen 30 full-grown Natts. together in the same tank?
 
well my partner is saying he can get me 20 or more - like however much i want. i just really need to know how many i can put in there. then i need to know what filtration i need to match that
 
Ohio Entusiast;3588113; said:
One question.
Have you ever seen 30 full-grown Natts. together in the same tank?
i said start out with 30, maybe end up with 20. there's no reason people can't thin things out if they feel like things are overcrowded, but IMO, that 20 gallons per fish rule really only applies if you are talking about a tank with a smaller footprint than 72 x 18. i think 10-12 is a good number for a 125, so 20 for a 200 isn't out of the question.

out of all the tanks you see with natts, how many of them contain fish over 10 inches? i don't know about you, but i don't see very many
 
Neervana;3588170; said:
well my partner is saying he can get me 20 or more - like however much i want. i just really need to know how many i can put in there. then i need to know what filtration i need to match that
you could definitely buy more than 20 and see how things go... personally, i think 20 in a 200 gallon tank is just fine, but if you feel like things are getting too crowded as they get bigger, take a few out.

for filtration on an overstocked tank, i would recommend a sump for bio and at least a couple canisters set up purely for mech. as long as the filtration is adequate, just keep an eye on your nitrate levels and perform water changes as necessary.
 
OK, I guess we can agree to disagree.

I feel a minimum of 25 gallons per fish is the standard. I like a lot of big driftwood/plants in my tank and probably feed 5x's what I should. I also look at the entire life span of anything I keep and set-up my tanks accordingly. I want my fish to be as comfortable as possible and achieve their true full size. My fish grew a full 1''-2'' in about a month when they went from the 125 to the 220. As it stands, they're 9''-11'' and I expect even more growth,

I kept my 6 Natts. in a 125 up until a few months ago and they seemed cramped to me.

Trust me, if I went with my first instincts I'd probably have 50 in there as I feel the more the merrier but I can't allow myself to go with my first instinct.
 
yeah, there's two schools of thought on groups of pygos in aquariums, some people think that it's best to really understock the tank and give a few fish a ton of room and there's those that believe in overstocking to not allow the fish to have enough room to set up territories and fight over them. both ways can work out just fine, just depends on what type of look you want for your tank and how much extra filtration and maintenance you want to have on the tank.
 
both ways can work out just fine, just depends on what type of look you want for your tank and how much extra filtration and maintenance you want to have on the tank.

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That's exactly it! We each have our own idea of how a tank should look and how much maintenance is tolerable. It's up to the individual what is acceptable in terms of how many fish to stock, which filter is the best, optimal temperature etc., etc.

I personally swear by wet/dry filters and probably won't set up another serious tank without one. I like excessive current and temperature. The next guy will tell you he swears by canisters or HOB filters and little or no current.

I've likely burnt way too many brain cells in my life but I let my fish tell me what they like. That being said; I'm hoping there's nobody reading this in the position to lock me up in some mental ward of some sort...
 
i agree, on a larger tank, wet/dry is the way to go, i would never consider anything else either. as far as canisters go, for larger tanks, they can be great if set up to add mech filtration on top of a wet/dry, just shop around and get one that moves a ton of water.
 
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