New Beast

[Tango374]

i got fooled?
it took weeks for anyone on here to realise, i saw, i bought coz its a nice fish. ive been keeping piranha for all of 5 months

wned::lipsseale

What made that the funniest is he was the first replier to the original post...

Ron I bought 3 "Black Piranha's"...(my first 3 serra's)
The first one was long before digital camers and the photos I took with a disposable are horrid. I believe he was a Brantii. 6 Years later I had to get rid of him leaving for basic. It took that fish a year before he would come out of hiding...but he turned into quite the ball of aggression.
I later got "Black Piranha" which the whole 2.5" of him costed me close to a $100. He grew into a Sanchezi and who was Identified by Frank Magallanes in '02. He died of unknown causes. He remains the only piranha I've kept, pygo or serra, to die that way.
It took me 10 years (no shipping for me) to finally get my Guyana Rhom.

If a rhom is what you aiming to get and you haven't been looking at pics of ALL serra's for months if not years, its easy for a LFS peron to make a sale. It happens ALL the time with p-keepers.

 

[JoeDizzleMPLS]

i don't think that anyone is really in a position to claim the high road or to flame others for their comments... there is a big difference between commenting on a nice fish after casually glancing at a photograph and claiming a positive ID on a fish that you have in your own tank.

personally, i think that rontherhom had a beautiful little eigenmanni and now has a large mac. i will gladly say that you have a great lookin gold mac, but i for one wonder how you can say things like that after you argued so much about the possibility of shoaling and the growth rate of rhoms when you yourself now admit that you only have five months worth of experience with piranhas.

i don't wanna start a huge argument again, i just want people to start thinking before they say things, especially when they don't have much ground to stand on.

 

[RonTheRHOM]

@ TANGO374

LoL
yeah picking out serras isnt full of success for new p keepers unless u buy off an importer which is what i plan to do next... lookin at a 12"er now.
btw... your guyana is a beast, i love them very thick set jaw and aggressive as hell. quite hard to get hold of so deffo look after him m8

@JoeDizzle

i argued about the shoaling because i and many others thought they were rhom, and i was explaining how their behaviour was to one another (very similar to RBP's in their tolerance). now i/we know they are eignimanni's it explains why.
BUT... the worming thing is FACT it was told to me buy a vet one of my mates knows who actually keeps piranha

 

[JoeDizzleMPLS]

@ TANGO374

LoL
yeah picking out serras isnt full of success for new p keepers unless u buy off an importer which is what i plan to do next... lookin at a 12"er now.
btw... your guyana is a beast, i love them very thick set jaw and aggressive as hell. quite hard to get hold of so deffo look after him m8

@JoeDizzle

i argued about the shoaling because i and many others thought they were rhom, and i was explaining how their behaviour was to one another (very similar to RBP's in their tolerance). now i/we know they are eignimanni's it explains why.
BUT... the worming thing is FACT it was told to me buy a vet one of my mates knows who actually keeps piranha

like i said, not trying to argue, you have a very nice mac. i do have to say however, that a vet that has kept piranhas that claims that by de-worming rhoms they are able to reach sizes that they would attain in nature does not make it fact, many people have kept rhoms over the years and have not been able to grow rhoms from little guys up to monsters, and the reality is that they haven't figured out the exact reason why this is so. many people treat for internal parasites when it is necessary to do so. the fact of the matter is that rhoms are much more susceptible to parasites in the wild than they are in a carefully kept aquarium where their diet consists of parasite-free food. rhoms reach huge sizes on their own in the wild without people dumping de-worming meds into their water, so how are you going to claim that the way for them to reach that size is to de-worm them? i will gladly admit that i am wrong if you can produce actual evidence of a rhom growing from 8" to 16" in one of your friends tanks. until then, stop claiming erroneous information as fact.

 

[RonTheRHOM]

english mother****er do you speak it!!!

look through my posts and show me where i said that by worming it it would deffo hit 16". i said they get worms (regularly) and it slows their growth even more that is fact, and not 2 many people know about it. i simply was telling people some advice to get maximum growth out of their rhom whatever size they may top out. i was just saying i was hoping for the best growth rates. ****s sake u are annoying

 

[RonTheRHOM]

"the fact of the matter is that rhoms are much more susceptible to parasites in the wild than they are in a carefully kept aquarium where their diet consists of parasite-free food."

they are in the wild, they grow to the size god intended. in a home aquarium they are prone to worm all the time. u cannot argue this with me as u are no vet and dont know **** about it so stfu.
i dont give 2 f*cks if no1 listens to this bit of advice or not, but i know that i will so to ensure maximum growth in my rhom

 

[JoeDizzleMPLS]

why can't you just admit that you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about? you are the one that had an eigenmanni that you thought was a rhom, and you are the one that traded for a mac that you thought was a rhom. you are absolutely insane if you think that you and your vet are the first people in the world that started treating for internal parasites. i once again will ask you to show actual proof from either you or your vet that by using your "special worm treatment" you can attain maximum growth. until i see it, you are just another person who has jumped into this hobby and immediately thinks that they know everything. prove me wrong

 

[JoeDizzleMPLS]

"the fact of the matter is that rhoms are much more susceptible to parasites in the wild than they are in a carefully kept aquarium where their diet consists of parasite-free food."

they are in the wild, they grow to the size god intended. in a home aquarium they are prone to worm all the time. u cannot argue this with me as u are no vet and dont know **** about it so stfu.
i dont give 2 f*cks if no1 listens to this bit of advice or not, but i know that i will so to ensure maximum growth in my rhom

by the way, has it not been made absolutely clear to you by this poin that you don't now, nor have you ever owned a rhom? you had an eigenmanni and now you have a mac, so stop with this maximum growth in my rhom talk.

 

[JoeDizzleMPLS]

is this vet you speak of an ichthyologist or are they simply a vet that happens to partake in the fishkeeping hobby? unless they are an ichthyologist, i'm not quite sure why their word should matter anymore than your average hobbyist's

 

[rocust]

have to agree with Joe on this, i think there are more critical factors that help with growth like zero nitrate, water changes to remove growth inhibiting hormones, and deep tanks that add more than the average water pressure, Ron, how do the worms keep appearing after they`ve been killed by the med?