New thread...p14 is very swollen????? Video-
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He went a good week or more not eating.... i have talked to different experienced people regarding the issue.
Have got lots of different advise...
Some say could be organ failure, some say hyperplasia, some say that it could be the gill flukes causing a bacterial infection. Maybe the prazi did not work yet...Maybe it was damaged in shipping? Hard to say right now...
Was given lots of information about the med's that we use as hobbyist. Most of them tetracycline and metro, is basically useless as most are resistance to these highly used meds.
I can say he is still pretty dang swollen, so hard to tell if he is bony skinny. I can say that i saw him eat some black worms yesterday. So maybe things are changing? His breathing is not to bad any more....
On a up side the female is doing perfect, she eats lots and is looking great....
NEW VIDEO IS UPLOADING, WILL BE UP SHORTLY
He went a good week or more not eating.... i have talked to different experienced people regarding the issue.
Have got lots of different advise...
Some say could be organ failure, some say hyperplasia, some say that it could be the gill flukes causing a bacterial infection. Maybe the prazi did not work yet...Maybe it was damaged in shipping? Hard to say right now...
Was given lots of information about the med's that we use as hobbyist. Most of them tetracycline and metro, is basically useless as most are resistance to these highly used meds.
I can say he is still pretty dang swollen, so hard to tell if he is bony skinny. I can say that i saw him eat some black worms yesterday. So maybe things are changing? His breathing is not to bad any more....
On a up side the female is doing perfect, she eats lots and is looking great....
NEW VIDEO IS UPLOADING, WILL BE UP SHORTLY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZraRtG3qSU
video is terrible, as the Tanks he is in has a yellow light, his spots are really white..
After comparing the old video with this, maybe his swelling is going down....hard to say.
video is terrible, as the Tanks he is in has a yellow light, his spots are really white..
After comparing the old video with this, maybe his swelling is going down....hard to say.
This is fantastic advise imo from a very clever guy.
I personally think the ray is suffering from a type of dropsy which causes the animal to retain too much body fluid i believe hence the swelling.
Good luck with it,the latest video looks to show a marked improvement.
Dropsy?
Is this another common fish disease that FW rays "don't get"?
I'm starting to think rays suffer from common fish diseases just as other fish do, they just don't have the same textbook sysmptoms that we use in diagnosing the problem.
Glad to hear there may be signs of improvement!!!
Is this another common fish disease that FW rays "don't get"?
I'm starting to think rays suffer from common fish diseases just as other fish do, they just don't have the same textbook sysmptoms that we use in diagnosing the problem.
Glad to hear there may be signs of improvement!!!
time is key man, theres no gregory house style diagnosis with this, just keep up whatever you are doing
Dropsy... Did some reading on it... could possibly be.
Yea, he is looking a bit better
ha ha, yea. i bet your right
thanks, i think he may be improving some
true!
Well i took apart eh canister to make sure that he is actually eating the worms, canister was empty.
So he has been eating the last couple of days. I saw him eat last night and again this morning. It seems to me like his spiracle's are swollen. He seemed to breath pretty heavy last night after a 50% water change but breathing was better today.
My ph is so high, that maybe that is bothering him, i am going to pick up another ph test kit today to see what it is coming out of the tap again, and what it is in the tank..
I think your pH is around 8 ?
This implies extremely hard water ( the Ocean is about 8.14 ) and high conductivity etc.
S.American rays are found in extremely soft clear water where the pH ( pH6-6.5 , uS 10-25 average in the main bodies of water ) is maintained only by the sheer volume of flow and new water from rains and Andean snow melt . Especially the black rays and Colombian rays.
I wonder if this individual ray has not had some kind of organ failure and succumbed to osmoregulation problems and stress? If it can't excrete salts it might be prone to retain water internally to try to dilute its body salts, causing the swelling. I don;t know, just hypothesizing ...
This implies extremely hard water ( the Ocean is about 8.14 ) and high conductivity etc.
S.American rays are found in extremely soft clear water where the pH ( pH6-6.5 , uS 10-25 average in the main bodies of water ) is maintained only by the sheer volume of flow and new water from rains and Andean snow melt . Especially the black rays and Colombian rays.
I wonder if this individual ray has not had some kind of organ failure and succumbed to osmoregulation problems and stress? If it can't excrete salts it might be prone to retain water internally to try to dilute its body salts, causing the swelling. I don;t know, just hypothesizing ...
