alfagator;1060624; said:
It depends on how big the tank in question is. People have kept South American giants in large setups. Really, when it come to pikes it not the gallonage that matter, but rather the footprint.
Northern pike?
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It depends on how big the tank in question is. People have kept South American giants in large setups. Really, when it come to pikes it not the gallonage that matter, but rather the footprint.
Absolutely not. Out of all the Esocids, Northern Pike are the most temperature sensitive. Even mid 70's (F) the fish will be under heat stress and eventually die. They absolutely despise warm water.
Sorry to be a downer.
PS> Those Euro Pike are AWESOME!!!
Sorry to be a downer.
PS> Those Euro Pike are AWESOME!!!
1) they grow fast. Within a year they may weigh several pounds and be well over a foot long and a half long and will get huge requiring more space than your tank
2) small pike often ( particularily in times of little food ) consume pike approaching theuir own size and they cant be kept together as any significant size difference could result in one eating the other. They often will strike at anything that annoys them eg another pike in their eyeline for hours at a time )
3) the females WILL die quickly as they die if they cannot spawn when they reach sexual maturity and they couldnt spawn in your tank. The eggs need to be fertilised or they die, they get spawned up. The males are much smaller and would need to be kept in the same tank but miles away from the females ( or they would be eaten by them ). Maybe keeping a male could work, but a makes would still reach up to 12 pounds ( and not far off a meter in length )
4) they will smash and crack your tank. They are by far the fastest fresh water fish and move over 30mph when striking. When weighing several pounds after a year or so and moving at 30mph into the side of your tank the tank will break it if its not of the highest quality. They wont do this so much if put in the tank when very young.
5) to remove any fish in the UK from any water ( even your own if it is not an ornamental pond ) requires permission from the environment agency, so if your mates are grillin pike at the side of their swim they are risking arrest, and the fact that your mates are criminals is no reason to break the law. In no public or private body of water is it likely that they would have permission from the ea.
6) The re-release the fish would a) potentially ruin the fishery into which they were being released via the spread of diseases that werent previously there b) pike do very poorly when moved from one water to another even when wild because they dont know the water or its hierarchy c) could land you in prison in the uk and/or with a large fine.
2) small pike often ( particularily in times of little food ) consume pike approaching theuir own size and they cant be kept together as any significant size difference could result in one eating the other. They often will strike at anything that annoys them eg another pike in their eyeline for hours at a time )
3) the females WILL die quickly as they die if they cannot spawn when they reach sexual maturity and they couldnt spawn in your tank. The eggs need to be fertilised or they die, they get spawned up. The males are much smaller and would need to be kept in the same tank but miles away from the females ( or they would be eaten by them ). Maybe keeping a male could work, but a makes would still reach up to 12 pounds ( and not far off a meter in length )
4) they will smash and crack your tank. They are by far the fastest fresh water fish and move over 30mph when striking. When weighing several pounds after a year or so and moving at 30mph into the side of your tank the tank will break it if its not of the highest quality. They wont do this so much if put in the tank when very young.
5) to remove any fish in the UK from any water ( even your own if it is not an ornamental pond ) requires permission from the environment agency, so if your mates are grillin pike at the side of their swim they are risking arrest, and the fact that your mates are criminals is no reason to break the law. In no public or private body of water is it likely that they would have permission from the ea.
6) The re-release the fish would a) potentially ruin the fishery into which they were being released via the spread of diseases that werent previously there b) pike do very poorly when moved from one water to another even when wild because they dont know the water or its hierarchy c) could land you in prison in the uk and/or with a large fine.
all points that i have found and noted since the thread.... am looking to find a grass pike though its doubtful i will find one i recently secured to bowfin of equal difficulty so theres hope!
1) Btw, they grow larger in more southern waters ( warmer waters ) with italy having huge pike and Canada and Alaska having loads of little pike ( relatively that is no 50 pounders in Canada ever )
2) If you saw one eat a duck then you are v lucky, I have spent a lot of my life around pike and only ever heard about the myths about them eating ducks ect. The eating of adult waterfoul by pike is rare and is only ever by large pike that are very hungry ( often when a waterway loses lots of its fish through disease and there is no little other food)
3) They are very shy animals by nature and the exposure granted by an aquarium is often very stressful to a pike, far more so than to a bream or other fish that whilst shy is not as exceptionally shy as the pike is. They lie to hide and get very stressed in an aquarium.
2) If you saw one eat a duck then you are v lucky, I have spent a lot of my life around pike and only ever heard about the myths about them eating ducks ect. The eating of adult waterfoul by pike is rare and is only ever by large pike that are very hungry ( often when a waterway loses lots of its fish through disease and there is no little other food)
3) They are very shy animals by nature and the exposure granted by an aquarium is often very stressful to a pike, far more so than to a bream or other fish that whilst shy is not as exceptionally shy as the pike is. They lie to hide and get very stressed in an aquarium.
I live in NYC and travel to Ontario, Canada every year to catch Northerns, because they are great fighters - violent feeders esp when they are over 30". They do not do well year round in warm waters - why would you do that to an awesome fish?
Just curious.
Just curious.
3 years late to add to this topic, I live in Bangkok Thailand and have just bought a 10 inch Northern Pike and thought to myself how can this be that they sell them here for the aquarium! But now I found out that they live wild now in some lakes in Malaysia and Indonesia where they were released many years ago and breeding in large numbers. http://tawau-fishing.blogspot.com/
wow there was alot of wrong things said in this thread, ha pike are not the fastest freshwater fish. Oh well its an old thread
MY PIKE IS IN TRIPIcal temps. its not that had to convert him just like two weeks and i think her actually looks better and he is really active and growing fast
Tropical temps are not good for a pike, young pike will inhabit shallow warm water but once they hit the 24" mark they need deeper cooler water.predatorbass;3431958; said:
