This will just fizzle and never get anywhere. They have all the money and all the power up in their way.
Occupy Wall Street?
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yeah i heard about it, seems to be spreading because i just heard that they're going to do it in philadelphia too.
they seem like the tea partiers, in the sense that they are not very organized and don't have a clear message or strategy. it's a shame that there are so many pissed-off people and their passion is being squandered.
one good thing coming out of it is that it's highlighting the rampant police brutality, hopefully something will be done about that.
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they seem like the tea partiers, in the sense that they are not very organized and don't have a clear message or strategy. it's a shame that there are so many pissed-off people and their passion is being squandered.
one good thing coming out of it is that it's highlighting the rampant police brutality, hopefully something will be done about that.
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Ok, so I was at liberty park last night and will say that they are not going away. The police presence is insane but, to my surprise, a bunch of on duty cops were engaged in dialogue with passing protesters and voicing their support. This I found encouraging.
Before last night my major criticism of the movement was it's lack of leadership, and objectives. After spending a few hours there it dawned on me that, the absence of a leader or a 'list of demands' is this movements greatest asset. People are talking and, more importantly, listening to one another. No one is left out or ostracized and, in turn, more and more unions, organizations and common citizens have been turning out to show their support.
Yes, the focus is on corporate greed on wall street but, as more people engage in discussion, the dots are being connected.
This is a process and no one expects the global economy to improve overnight. Nor does anyone expect those addicted to power and influence to relinquish it willingly.
Before last night my major criticism of the movement was it's lack of leadership, and objectives. After spending a few hours there it dawned on me that, the absence of a leader or a 'list of demands' is this movements greatest asset. People are talking and, more importantly, listening to one another. No one is left out or ostracized and, in turn, more and more unions, organizations and common citizens have been turning out to show their support.
Yes, the focus is on corporate greed on wall street but, as more people engage in discussion, the dots are being connected.
This is a process and no one expects the global economy to improve overnight. Nor does anyone expect those addicted to power and influence to relinquish it willingly.
The Core of this is to bring the People back into the Political process that has essentially been hijacked by special interests and big spending corporations.
It seems as though we THE PEOPLE and THE WORKING CLASS are just about the last thing on the minds of any of these Terrorists in DC right now. They (Both parties BTW Rep. and Dem.) are stringing us out to bleed us dry for their own interests and benefit NOT ours... Enough is enough and the 99% needs to take a stand.
It seems as though we THE PEOPLE and THE WORKING CLASS are just about the last thing on the minds of any of these Terrorists in DC right now. They (Both parties BTW Rep. and Dem.) are stringing us out to bleed us dry for their own interests and benefit NOT ours... Enough is enough and the 99% needs to take a stand.
the 99% needs to start acting like 99% if they want to get taken seriously. you only have strength in numbers when everyone is working towards the same goal.
not only do they need to state specifically what their problems are, they also have to present a coherent solution... and that's only step ONE.
my prediction is that people are going to get bored with the feel good party after a few weeks and it's going to fizzle out.
call me cynical, but i don't want these people calling the shots any more than i do the corporations.
Well, it's fall and I don't see anyone staying out there all winter. Hopefully, by the time it fizzles out, the issues being raised will heighten the awareness of others.
Supposedly they're having an 'Occupy the Fed' movement in Dallas. It should be warmer down there. Lol.
Supposedly they're having an 'Occupy the Fed' movement in Dallas. It should be warmer down there. Lol.
500 Protestors ‘Occupy Dallas’ On Way To Federal*Reserve
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DALLAS (CBSDFW.COM) –*The estimated 500 protestors who crowded the block abutting the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas Thursday chanted their talking points in unison, rallying against corporate greed and social inequality.
“Banks got bailed out, we got sold out,” the group shouted.
“Tell me what democracy looks like,” started a call, “This is what democracy looks like!” closed the response.
The 500 participants marched about a half-mile from Pike Park to the Federal Reserve Bank to show solidarity with Occupy Wall Street, the New York protest that began three weeks ago to stand up to inequality among the classes, in addition to a host of other economic ills.
Occupy Dallas Protest Photos
Similar stagings are cropping up in cities across the nation. On Thursday, supporters in Texas got to show their stripes: Occupations were launched in Houston, Austin, San Antonio and Dallas.
“You are here, you are the 99 percent, and you will march!” shouted McKenzie Wainwright, 23, from a gazebo facing the crowd at Pike Park shortly before the march began. Her fellow protestors erupted into applause.
The 99 is meant to represent “the other 99,” or, the 99 percent of Americans who control less wealth than the remaining 1 percent, which is defined as “the banks, the mortgage industry, the insurance industry … the important ones,” on the group’s Tumblr.
“This isn’t a liberal movement,” said Cordell Cameron, a spokesman for the Dallas protest. “It’s something that’s affecting Republicans and Democrats … we have a goal that we can all agree on and we should concentrate on that.”
Occupy Dallas participants march on the Dallas Federal Reserve building near downtown Dallas on October 6, 2011. Photo credit: J.Burkett, CBSDFW.com
The leaderless, populist movement sprouted its legs on social media.
In advance of Thursday’s march, Cameron and other organizers participated in meetings – 100 people attended one early in the week, Cameron said – that were organized and promoted using Twitter, Facebook and TinyChat, a public chat room website.
“Well it’s been paramount for sure,” Cameron said of the online resources. “Without it, we wouldn’t exist.”
Before the march, protestors were asked to use the hashtag #OccupyDallas on Twitter and photo-sharing site Flickr, so supporters in other cities and those who are curious about the movement can follow from home, or from their phones.
Volunteers coordinated a route with police, and urged smokers to pick up their cigarette butts and other participants not to leave trash behind. On the half-mile march, many participants thanked officers as the mass of protestors snaked forward.
“If we see anyone breaking the law, and it’s not an act of civil disobedience, we are going to report it to the police immediately,” Cameron said Wednesday. “We’re not going to let anyone come out and vandalize, pollute, break things … we’re not going to tolerate it.”
Cameron said the group’s goal was to rally the troops, if you will, in order to bring* the so-called other 99 together and wake up the rest of the country. As such, few solutions were offered for myriad ills the protestors were so lionized by.
But participants seemed OK with that: As one marcher’s sign put it, “Hello Goliath, Meet David.”
The voices of the Occupy Dallas protest
To illustrate that, businessmen in pressed suits walked alongside younger marchers in tattered jeans, chanting together. Labor unions were also present during the Dallas march, adding what some thought to be an additional air of legitimacy.
“The model for all this is the Arab Spring,” said Gene Lantz, press secretary for the Dallas AFL-CIO, which openly supports the Occupy movement. “They had very large demonstrations primarily led by students, just as this is, but you didn’t really see the change start until labor took a hand.”
But experts say the movement’s aimlessness could mean consequences later in its development. With a wide-span of social and economic frustrations, the group risks muddling its message and creating restlessness and frustration among its ranks, said Dr. Kimi King, an associate political science professor at the University of North Texas.
“It’s the age old problem of persons who want to bring about social change using freedom of assembly and speech as a mechanism,” she said. “You still need to have a structured approach to how you’re going to do your problem solving. You still need leaders if you’re going to build that social change.”
During Thursday’s march, the chants and homemade signs served as bullet-points, of sorts, for what participants hoped to express. Many marchers had different priorities and reasons for coming, often based on trudging through a difficult economic sector that’s more focused on profits, they say, than creating additional jobs.
“I’m unemployed, and I was buying a house when I got laid off, and I’m trying to support two children,” said John Evans, 24, clutching a sign that read, ‘We can’t eat money.’ “And the (Federal Reserve) is printing more and more of my money, it’s got to stop.”
Evans, an oil field worker before being laid off, traveled 120 miles from Graham to express himself. Like many others, he said he was willing to stay “as long as it takes.”
Hundreds of protesters march on the Dallas Federal Reserve for the "Occupy Dallas" protest Thursday morning. Photo credit: J.Burkett for CBSDFW.com
That “it” varied for participants. For Evans, that meant “wrestling the monetary control from the Federal Reserve to Congress.”
Single mother Brenda Marrufo, 26, of Garland, also said she’d be staying “as long as it takes.” But her “it” was more footed in awareness.
“This is something that’s just the spark,” she said. “We want to open the eyes of our fellow Americans to this corruption. We’re just Americans who want a better world for our children.”
And early in the afternoon, those willing to “stay as long as it takes” took their first step in doing so: They agreed to amass at the JFK Memorial at 7 p.m. and hunker down there for the evening.
“As much as the Democrats say Republicans are responsible for this and Republicans say Democrats are responsible for that, the folks who are down on the street protesting just want accountability,” Dr. King said.
http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2011/10/06/500-protestors-occupy-dallas-on-way-to-federal-reserve/
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DALLAS (CBSDFW.COM) –*The estimated 500 protestors who crowded the block abutting the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas Thursday chanted their talking points in unison, rallying against corporate greed and social inequality.
“Banks got bailed out, we got sold out,” the group shouted.
“Tell me what democracy looks like,” started a call, “This is what democracy looks like!” closed the response.
The 500 participants marched about a half-mile from Pike Park to the Federal Reserve Bank to show solidarity with Occupy Wall Street, the New York protest that began three weeks ago to stand up to inequality among the classes, in addition to a host of other economic ills.
Occupy Dallas Protest Photos
Similar stagings are cropping up in cities across the nation. On Thursday, supporters in Texas got to show their stripes: Occupations were launched in Houston, Austin, San Antonio and Dallas.
“You are here, you are the 99 percent, and you will march!” shouted McKenzie Wainwright, 23, from a gazebo facing the crowd at Pike Park shortly before the march began. Her fellow protestors erupted into applause.
The 99 is meant to represent “the other 99,” or, the 99 percent of Americans who control less wealth than the remaining 1 percent, which is defined as “the banks, the mortgage industry, the insurance industry … the important ones,” on the group’s Tumblr.
“This isn’t a liberal movement,” said Cordell Cameron, a spokesman for the Dallas protest. “It’s something that’s affecting Republicans and Democrats … we have a goal that we can all agree on and we should concentrate on that.”
Occupy Dallas participants march on the Dallas Federal Reserve building near downtown Dallas on October 6, 2011. Photo credit: J.Burkett, CBSDFW.com
The leaderless, populist movement sprouted its legs on social media.
In advance of Thursday’s march, Cameron and other organizers participated in meetings – 100 people attended one early in the week, Cameron said – that were organized and promoted using Twitter, Facebook and TinyChat, a public chat room website.
“Well it’s been paramount for sure,” Cameron said of the online resources. “Without it, we wouldn’t exist.”
Before the march, protestors were asked to use the hashtag #OccupyDallas on Twitter and photo-sharing site Flickr, so supporters in other cities and those who are curious about the movement can follow from home, or from their phones.
Volunteers coordinated a route with police, and urged smokers to pick up their cigarette butts and other participants not to leave trash behind. On the half-mile march, many participants thanked officers as the mass of protestors snaked forward.
“If we see anyone breaking the law, and it’s not an act of civil disobedience, we are going to report it to the police immediately,” Cameron said Wednesday. “We’re not going to let anyone come out and vandalize, pollute, break things … we’re not going to tolerate it.”
Cameron said the group’s goal was to rally the troops, if you will, in order to bring* the so-called other 99 together and wake up the rest of the country. As such, few solutions were offered for myriad ills the protestors were so lionized by.
But participants seemed OK with that: As one marcher’s sign put it, “Hello Goliath, Meet David.”
The voices of the Occupy Dallas protest
To illustrate that, businessmen in pressed suits walked alongside younger marchers in tattered jeans, chanting together. Labor unions were also present during the Dallas march, adding what some thought to be an additional air of legitimacy.
“The model for all this is the Arab Spring,” said Gene Lantz, press secretary for the Dallas AFL-CIO, which openly supports the Occupy movement. “They had very large demonstrations primarily led by students, just as this is, but you didn’t really see the change start until labor took a hand.”
But experts say the movement’s aimlessness could mean consequences later in its development. With a wide-span of social and economic frustrations, the group risks muddling its message and creating restlessness and frustration among its ranks, said Dr. Kimi King, an associate political science professor at the University of North Texas.
“It’s the age old problem of persons who want to bring about social change using freedom of assembly and speech as a mechanism,” she said. “You still need to have a structured approach to how you’re going to do your problem solving. You still need leaders if you’re going to build that social change.”
During Thursday’s march, the chants and homemade signs served as bullet-points, of sorts, for what participants hoped to express. Many marchers had different priorities and reasons for coming, often based on trudging through a difficult economic sector that’s more focused on profits, they say, than creating additional jobs.
“I’m unemployed, and I was buying a house when I got laid off, and I’m trying to support two children,” said John Evans, 24, clutching a sign that read, ‘We can’t eat money.’ “And the (Federal Reserve) is printing more and more of my money, it’s got to stop.”
Evans, an oil field worker before being laid off, traveled 120 miles from Graham to express himself. Like many others, he said he was willing to stay “as long as it takes.”
Hundreds of protesters march on the Dallas Federal Reserve for the "Occupy Dallas" protest Thursday morning. Photo credit: J.Burkett for CBSDFW.com
That “it” varied for participants. For Evans, that meant “wrestling the monetary control from the Federal Reserve to Congress.”
Single mother Brenda Marrufo, 26, of Garland, also said she’d be staying “as long as it takes.” But her “it” was more footed in awareness.
“This is something that’s just the spark,” she said. “We want to open the eyes of our fellow Americans to this corruption. We’re just Americans who want a better world for our children.”
And early in the afternoon, those willing to “stay as long as it takes” took their first step in doing so: They agreed to amass at the JFK Memorial at 7 p.m. and hunker down there for the evening.
“As much as the Democrats say Republicans are responsible for this and Republicans say Democrats are responsible for that, the folks who are down on the street protesting just want accountability,” Dr. King said.
http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2011/10/06/500-protestors-occupy-dallas-on-way-to-federal-reserve/
Here's list of the various 'Occupy Movements' going on across the country.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/...idarity-events-and-Facebook pages?detail=hide
Anyone seeing or taking part in this? Can anyone confirm or deny the accuracy of this list?
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/...idarity-events-and-Facebook pages?detail=hide
Anyone seeing or taking part in this? Can anyone confirm or deny the accuracy of this list?
This is what is going on about 15-20min from me. They are there again today. I have classmates that are there, not sure how long it will all last.
http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/ne...s-to-return,-protest-at-gaslight-park-friday-
https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=161447800609799
http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/ne...s-to-return,-protest-at-gaslight-park-friday-
https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=161447800609799
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