Official Off Topic Discussion Thread #1
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Hello; back when a teacher in middle school for some years we had a morning and afternoon recess. A few minutes for kids to run around and burn off some energy. Common thing recess I imagine. Anyway sometimes some problem would start up. Maybe a fight even. I would punish the fighters. I now wonder how it would have gone if I told the entire class that they all will lose recess because those two students had a fight??
Well I will never know because it never occurred to me to punish an entire class for the actions of a few. Guess I missed a tactic. I am both old and old school. I still favor going after the guilty and leaving the innocent alone.
I did for a time use a tactic for going to the lunchroom. We had to go downstairs and across the school yard a short distance to the lunchroom (cafeteria). I had to lock the classroom so wound up behind the particular class. By the time I caught up some would have run off and were disrupting the cafeteria lines. My solution was to get a long section of light rope and have the students hold onto it as we walked to the cafeteria. Worked pretty well and the line problems were solved. After a little while the rope was not needed.
I agree.
How can I fairly punish the guilty when the rules are neither understood nor enforced? If I let everyone know what's expected, and give a grace period first, is this somehow unfair to you all?
The point I'm making is that I'm going to lay out the rules, give a grace period and then issue punitive action to violators. The fact that everyone seems to think I'm personally attacking them is quite confusing.
I think what the problem is, at least for some here, is that they have an unrealistic notion as to how much free time the admin/mods have available to deal with all of this outside of their personal lives. Sometimes locking a discussion is simply more effective from a time management perspective, than deleting the comment, sending a PM to the member that posted the TOS violation comment (which typically results in a back & forth PM session with said violator) and then returning to the thread to delete any further comments made after the fact, and making a post asking everyone to play nice. Sounds so simple when it's not your life.
I don't think anyone feels you are personally attacking them, at least I for one don't feel that way. I think we are just concerned that it's going to perhaps be a rule that is a bit too open ended and may simply turn this section into a place that is so heavily judged by possible things that could be "offensive" that it may just limit everything outside of fish talk. But as stated we'll just have to wait and see how it goes.
RD while I see your point, I don't think that's entirely the case. Yep doing admin on a site is a very time consuming job (and the pay sucks lol
) but when you decide to do it you know ahead of time that it is going to be a time suck. That's actually why I mentioned Rob think about making a couple of his mods SM's so that the time would be split between multiple people that way and not fall just on the admin.I think everyone agrees to punish the guilty. What we are getting at is it seems the innocent are being punished as well. Such as closing the lounge. 98% of the lounge people get along with no issues. it's those 2% that just drop in to cause problems but don't hang out in the lounge.
