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I agree Jeff.

If I was a would be thief and fancied my chances robbing households the last place on earth I'd be doing it is in a country where it is legal to own a firearm, and use it, if you feel threatened….

It varies widely, from place to place, what might happen, If you shoot, and under what circumstances.

I can’t claim a lot of experience here, because although I’ve owned dozens of guns, I’ve never had to point one at another human being or a dangerous animal.

The few animals that I did shoot were mostly innocent ones trying to survive in a brutal desert. A few years back I shot a possum that was harassing all the neighborhood dogs from the top of our 6 foot fences.

I used an air rifle because it’s illegal to fire bullets in the city limits. It was about 2 o’clock in the morning, and I wasn’t clean about it. It reqired a second shot, and the animal suffered greatly.

It’s been well over 50 years since I went out hunting and shot an innocent animal for fun. If I was being attacked, that would be another thing. But I remember going out to promontory point in Utah just to blast jackrabbits.

In all that time I have stuck strictly to target shooting.
 

Hello; Here is the most screwed up dog story yet. No violence, no mauling and no deaths, just a modern type "it has to be someone elses fault". You likely know the sort of person. Sort of the opposite and logical outcome of everybody gets a trophy.

Now i first confess to not completely understanding the logic of having a dog and not taking it for a walk yourself. I will also confess to not understanding what seems to me a sort of fad of having a dog when your lifestyle makes such very hard.
(side note- I live near an expanding college campus. One which has grown from a sleepy small college to a local behemoth. Seems nearly all the students have dogs. Some more than one. I can only imagine what dorm life is like and in fact do not want to know first-hand.)

So, back to the link. I have not owned a dog since the early 1980's. (was not a dog parent by the way. I owned the dog. Another odd life twist = pet parent) Things were simple enough back then. Now dogs get medical care on a level in terms of cost with human health care. Costs a lot. So where is the next level of false logic coming from? First level is having a dog which you cannot walk yourself. Second level is expecting a low a low wage dog walker to help foot the bill for something a dog (a dumb dog by owners very words) eats.

Made me think of why i finally stopped driving a school bus. I drove for 13 years. I understood i was liable for the safety of my passengers. From 1st graders to 8th graders most years. The first few years I could maintain discipline on the bus. Yes i did use corporal punishment. I used a paddle. Worked very well. As time went by the "experts" took away the paddle, then writing lines, then stopped all forms of punishment. In addition I could not personally kick a student off the bus nor could i get the school principal to use his authority to do so. There is a final straw episode after which I declared I needed to be able to kick unruly kids off my bus for safety reasons or I would quit driving. The bosses let me quit. But i am off topic a bit.

Had a friend in the medical field. He earned well. Had a low paid housekeeper come clean his house after his wife left. One weekend he gets around to cleaning up a portion of the property. After timing some branches and other work he decides to block the spot the housekeeper had been parking in for many months. he did not tell her of the change, just filled a black five-gallon bucket with gravel and sat it in front of the spot. The woman drove into the bucket causing big damage to her car. ( I saw the bucket after the fact and had to tell him it was hard to spot. ) He refused to help her with a car repair and was very self-satisfied he was not in the wrong. Would have been tiny potatoes financially for him but devastated the woman.

To those who hire someone to walk your dog, too bad if i offend. To those who walk their own dog good for you and please clean up if they deposit on a walking trail.
 
Here is the most screwed up dog story yet.

The owner of the dog works full time, lives on their own and the complex where they live has extremely dog unfriendly greenery on site! Who'd have a dog given those circumstances, it's borderline animal cruelty!

They say the five year old corgi is "low in intelligence/wisdom", lol. In this case I'd say the owner is very much lacking in intelligence and wisdom too!

If I was the hired help I'd tell the idiot where to go!
 
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My boyfriend makes twice as much as I do but insists we split everything 50/50. Is that fair?

Hello; I guess the link is clickbait, but it strikes a chord. A decent exploration "equity" & "equality".

The story turns out to be biased but that is not the main point, at least for me. The scenario is one makes $50K & the other makes $100 K. That the couple are in a romantic relationship is of less interest to me, but a big sway point for the author.
The rent is $1000 I think so an equal split is $500 each. That makes sense. What the link leaves out is a real-world situation would be for the $50K person. On their own they would have to pay the full $1000. So, they are $500 ahead with a fair split of costs. The author wants a better deal for the lower wage earner.

Not clear why the higher wage earner is making more. Did they work hard at gaining some more critical skill? Are they doing some sort of much more dangerous or physical job? None of that sort of thing matters within the realm of equity. All that seems to matter is the one with less income ought to get a better deal simply because the other earns more. Now as a public-school teacher in KY I could have gone for such a deal. There is a flaw in the thinking of course.

In this particular example the couple are in a romantic setup. The author goes into feelings and definitions of relationships a lot. I get it. I was married twice. Both times I was the sole earner even though in one marriage the wife had a college degree which I managed to get paid off. So I was apparently being very "equitable" and did not exactly know it at the time. Worked out well for the wives as they had plenty of time for their boyfriends, but a topic for another day. I will say this though; the grass was apparently not "greener" as both tried to come back after the divorces.

Of course, I acknowledge to have missed some important points about equity as it has been applied currently. Perhaps other will fill in about the current spins
 
DIY projects are cool. DIY car-builds are especially cool.

Dogs are great. People suck. Cats are...cats...

All animals are innocent; they all do what comes naturally. Only people are guilty. But I've dispatched a huge number of animals (including fish) during my life...for food, for defense of property i.e. pest control, for fur, for humanitarian reasons...and have no intention of stopping anytime soon. Nobody who eats meat and/or wears leather has any right to judge me...and a spandex-clad vegan has, by definition, already proven to have poor judgment, so...

Okay, I'm done now. This thread has officially gotten too silly for my taste.
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Of course, I acknowledge to have missed some important points about equity as it has been applied currently. Perhaps other will fill in about the current spins

I don't really see how "equity and equality" have anything to do with this to be honest. It's more a case of basic fair play really imo.

It's not as if the gap in earnings is slight, one's earning TWICE as much as the other, so course there has to be a difference in "housekeeping input" between the two parties.

Either that, or bicker and quarrel until the relationship breaks down, which it will in the end.

The wife and I both earn, me from working, the wife, who can't work, earns her money from renting out houses which she bought with a windfall she got over 10 years ago.

Our incomes are pretty similar and we both put equal amounts into the "housekeeping" pot. A slight difference in earnings wouldn't bother either of us, but if one of us earned substantially more than the other then common sense would prevail and we'd work something out.

Again, it's all common sense and fairness really imo.
 
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